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Malkieth · November 17th, 2007, 12:36

I can understand your concerns about the new High Elves and now they always strike first. This isn't the best thing however if you have a charcter who also has this ability and a higher I then the Elves then you strike first anyway.

With the release of the new Army Book I have watched a fair few games in which High Elves are still getting beaten. Just because they strike first doesn't mean that much if they are still only S3 and T3... it gives them a bit more survivability but they are still quite fragile.

The trick to beating them is to still charge them, but you want to charge them in their flanks... because of unit high points cost they won't be running bid units so they won't have as many attacks on their flanks. if you cahrge anything in the flank then it doesn't matter if they strike first. The only thing which bothers me about the new list is the change in the organisation of the army so that they can have more specials and rares.

However this always works against them as well as their troops are pricey and most armies can easily outnumber them... I am curious though how you see that people are disadvantaged by this....

When you look at the armies out there... things like the empire who aren't the best espenstially WS3 BS3 S3 T3 etc... however they have the war machines that will cut through ranks of High Elves and they are that one army that really struggles when they start losing troops...

You will find that each army will have a way in which to defeat them as each armies strengths are augmented by weaknesses... lets face it High Elves really have been a walk over army for a long time and they have finally got some rules to make them a tougher opposition.

And it is important to still charge them... especially their calvary as that way they won't get strength bonuses etc... it will just involve more tactics and planning and in the end they are still S3 & T3 and generally lightly armoured so they are still going to struggle... its the sword masters and white lions that you need to avoid.

So in the end I think that there is not much to really worry about execpt those swordmasters and white lions... but you won't see too many big units of them. So there is nothing to really fear. I just feel sorry for them that they can only take 1 bolt thrower per rare choice instead of the old 2.

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Malkieth Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sydney Age: 27 Posts: 536 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 29	I can understand your concerns about the new High Elves and now they always strike first. This isn't the best thing however if you have a charcter who also has this ability and a higher I then the Elves then you strike first anyway. With the release of the new Army Book I have watched a fair few games in which High Elves are still getting beaten. Just because they strike first doesn't mean that much if they are still only S3 and T3... it gives them a bit more survivability but they are still quite fragile. The trick to beating them is to still charge them, but you want to charge them in their flanks... because of unit high points cost they won't be running bid units so they won't have as many attacks on their flanks. if you cahrge anything in the flank then it doesn't matter if they strike first. The only thing which bothers me about the new list is the change in the organisation of the army so that they can have more specials and rares. However this always works against them as well as their troops are pricey and most armies can easily outnumber them... I am curious though how you see that people are disadvantaged by this.... When you look at the armies out there... things like the empire who aren't the best espenstially WS3 BS3 S3 T3 etc... however they have the war machines that will cut through ranks of High Elves and they are that one army that really struggles when they start losing troops... You will find that each army will have a way in which to defeat them as each armies strengths are augmented by weaknesses... lets face it High Elves really have been a walk over army for a long time and they have finally got some rules to make them a tougher opposition. And it is important to still charge them... especially their calvary as that way they won't get strength bonuses etc... it will just involve more tactics and planning and in the end they are still S3 & T3 and generally lightly armoured so they are still going to struggle... its the sword masters and white lions that you need to avoid. So in the end I think that there is not much to really worry about execpt those swordmasters and white lions... but you won't see too many big units of them. So there is nothing to really fear. I just feel sorry for them that they can only take 1 bolt thrower per rare choice instead of the old 2.