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CaptainSarathai · November 17th, 2007, 21:48

Okay, I use woodelves, empire, brettonian, vampire counts, and yes HIGH ELVES. And I can tell you, i bought and used the book the day it came out- there are ways to kill us.

1) our best toughness is 3. actually, all of our models are T4

2) our strongest attack is a White Lion with a greatweapon. He hits at s6. The highest S characteristic is 4.

3) we have NO shooting. Our 100pt RBTs are the only thing we have that can scratch anyone. face it- our archers are still terribly overpriced.

4) all those quirks that we get, come at a high price. we are always outnumbered.

5) for any of our troops units, the minimum unit size might as well be 20.

6) the only cavalry unit that is worth taking is 30pts per model

7) our best cavalry also has our best save- a 2+. All of our infantry has a 5+ save, even our elites.

How do you win?

1) shoot us. shoot us alot. T3 is actually easily harmed with a longbow, and a 5+ save isn't going to do much for us.

2) give yourself a wider front, so you have troops left over to strike back on the charge. or take spears, so that when we kill the front rank during normal combat, you still get attacks.

3) charge- you still want to charge. ASF doesn't negate charge bonuses. Cavalry will still hurt us if used properly

4) make bigger units. We have VERY small units, except our spears.

5) flank us. like they said already, we don't have enough units to cover our flanks unless we form a phalanx.

6) aim for Combat resolution. always take a banner, always fill up the ranks, be aware of unit strength.

6) you either have ALOT of unskilled troops, who will be able to mob up and employ the tactics above, or you have elite troops, who will be able to ride us down. Perhaps you'll have to follow a mix of the two.

The ASF rule is a nice thing for us, but it doesn't hurt too much. We're used to striking first- we used to have I5 and our M5 or M9 meant we usually charged. The trick is that you can no longer rely on KILLS to win the day. You have to break us down and get us to flee.

That's all that i have to say about this. Now you know you can kill us, so stop complaining that it's going to be impossible now that we get S3 T3 Sv5+ 9pt attacks before you get any.

November 17th, 2007, 21:48	#8 (permalink)
CaptainSarathai LO Zealot Join Date: May 2005 Location: inside your head Posts: 1,341 Rep Power: 64	Okay, I use woodelves, empire, brettonian, vampire counts, and yes HIGH ELVES. And I can tell you, i bought and used the book the day it came out- there are ways to kill us. 1) our best toughness is 3. actually, all of our models are T4 2) our strongest attack is a White Lion with a greatweapon. He hits at s6. The highest S characteristic is 4. 3) we have NO shooting. Our 100pt RBTs are the only thing we have that can scratch anyone. face it- our archers are still terribly overpriced. 4) all those quirks that we get, come at a high price. we are always outnumbered. 5) for any of our troops units, the minimum unit size might as well be 20. 6) the only cavalry unit that is worth taking is 30pts per model 7) our best cavalry also has our best save- a 2+. All of our infantry has a 5+ save, even our elites. How do you win? 1) shoot us. shoot us alot. T3 is actually easily harmed with a longbow, and a 5+ save isn't going to do much for us. 2) give yourself a wider front, so you have troops left over to strike back on the charge. or take spears, so that when we kill the front rank during normal combat, you still get attacks. 3) charge- you still want to charge. ASF doesn't negate charge bonuses. Cavalry will still hurt us if used properly 4) make bigger units. We have VERY small units, except our spears. 5) flank us. like they said already, we don't have enough units to cover our flanks unless we form a phalanx. 6) aim for Combat resolution. always take a banner, always fill up the ranks, be aware of unit strength. 6) you either have ALOT of unskilled troops, who will be able to mob up and employ the tactics above, or you have elite troops, who will be able to ride us down. Perhaps you'll have to follow a mix of the two. The ASF rule is a nice thing for us, but it doesn't hurt too much. We're used to striking first- we used to have I5 and our M5 or M9 meant we usually charged. The trick is that you can no longer rely on KILLS to win the day. You have to break us down and get us to flee. That's all that i have to say about this. Now you know you can kill us, so stop complaining that it's going to be impossible now that we get S3 T3 Sv5+ 9pt attacks before you get any. __________________ total W/ D /L with all armies ----38/ 6 /13----- Do YOU need a list? Click HERE for LO's very own Army Builder!