[HappyJim]

Originally Posted by Moglun

Sure, but you could make a powerbuild army that IS fun to play as, or fun to play against. Just because that army is bad doesn't mean ALL power armies are bad. Again, it seems like you're taking one example of a bad list and applying it to everyone who tries to build the most effective army they can.

Yes im sure you could, that dosnt change the fact you clearly didnt acknowledge what was already said, when you start with people who dont like powerbuilds because they cant beat them... obvioulsy that isnt listening and the same arrogance as you point out someone may have for faulting a different play style.

I said nothing of the sort; only that an army built with style primarily in mind MAY not be as powerful as an army built with power primarily in mind. In the same vein, someone who plays their army in character (roleplays it) probably wouldn't perform as well as someone who is playing to win. That doesn't mean that either way is better than the other.

But thats exactly what you saying, infact your refer to not playing the best possible army as roleplaying... So if trying to imply that someone isnt playing the game as a wargame because they show restraint isnt implying its a inferior play style i dont know what is.

It sounds like you're in the minority then. If people didn't enjoy playing at this level, why would they? They could just choose not to play the powergamer unless he starts to play the way they do, or only use their power lists against other power lists and also play less competitive games with other lists. You can't blame one person, or even a small group of people, for corrupting the rest of the players. If they didn't also want to play that way, they wouldn't.

Says who exactly? i will point out that many of players (again, another indication of not reading the previous posts) believe warhammer has less tactics than 40k, seeing as these people enjoy 40k more perhaps thats says something about the playstyle.

Corrupting really isnt what i said, funny you twist the facts after accusing me of doing the same, its a fact of life im affraid, many people have this urge to beat the other guy, no matter what. Some people just cant stand losing.

I actually meant more or less the same thing you're saying here, that playing AGAINST a strong list can give you great oppurtunity to learn.

Came off as you using more powerful lists teaches you more.

I actually feel the same way. But isn't it arrogant to fault others for feeling differently? If, for example, someone only wants to play the Franz/dragon/stank army because it gives them the best chance of winning, so what? To me, it's just another challenge to fight against, and winning becomes all the sweeter. And if you simply don't enjoy playing against those armies, no one is saying that you have to! But it's something which is within the rules, and which can be defeated. Who are we to declare this person or their army cheezy just because they enjoy playing the game differently than we do? If we choose to play the 'weaker' lists, what gives us the right to be angry with others for not choosing a similar handicap?

Im no faulting others, im voicing a opinion, your welcome how to play game however you like, i personally just cant understand people who play the game in certain ways (well i can to a point). Again you post indicates you havent read eariler posts, as i said before, i generally dont declare peoples armies cheesy, maybe go back and read the posts