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    Here it is: I am a newb to the game.........
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    Chaos Lord: 315pts
    -Mark Undivided
    -Combi-Melta
    -Dread Axe
    -Spiky bits
    -teleport Homer
    -Termi armour
    -Dem.Essence
    -Dem.Mutation
    -Dem.Resilience
    -Dem.Rune
    -Chosen Retinue:
    -5 Chosen
    -Mark Undivided
    -Bolter + CC weapon

    Elites: 210pts
    -3 Obliterators

    Heavy: 215pts
    -Defiler Battle Canon
    -Twin-Linked Lascannon
    -Havoc Launcher
    -Indirect Fire

    Fast Attack: 170pts
    -3 Raptors
    -Mark Undivided
    -Bolt Pistol + CC weapon
    -2 Raptors
    -Mark Undivided
    -Meltaguns

    Troops: 203pts
    -5 Troops
    -Mark Undivided
    -Bolt Pistol + CC weapon
    -Frag Nades
    -1 Troop
    -Mark Undivided
    -Flamer
    -Frag Nades
    -1 Troop
    -Mark Undivided
    -Meltagun
    -Frag Nades
    -1 Rhino
    -Combi-bolter
    -Havoc Launcher



    Troops: 203pts
    -5 Troops
    -Mark Undivided
    -Bolt Pistol + CC weapon
    -Frag Nades
    -1 Troop
    -Mark Undivided
    -Flamer
    -Frag Nades
    -1 Troop
    -Mark Undivided
    -Meltagun
    -Frag Nades
    -1 Rhino
    -Combi-bolter
    -Havoc Launcher

    Troops: 90pts
    -4 Troops
    -Mark Undivided
    -Bolter + CC weapon
    -1 Troop
    -Mark Undivided
    -Lascannon

    Troops: 90pts
    -4 Troops
    -Mark Undivided
    -Bolter + CC weapon
    -1 Troop
    -Mark Undivided
    -Lascannon


    Total= 1496pts
    Total Units= 41
    % HQ= 21%
    % Elites= 14%
    % Heavy= 14%
    % Fast= 11%
    % Troops= 40%

    Please be very critical.........I welcome it!!

    Leo


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    Come on people......help me out and reply!!!

    What Would improve this army?? Where is it in need of help??

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    generally you should have larger squads, so remove a squad or two and get all your squads (including the raptors) up to at least 8 men in each.

    Give your squads aspiring champions with power weapons or fists, you're going to need it.

    Don't use the chosen retinue squad, a normal Chaos Spacemarine squad with furious charge is way better, for the same cost per model, and they get cheaper special and heavy weapons as well.

    I like your heavy/special weapon selections on the squads. Nice and flexible.

    Drop all of those upgrades to the defiler. You don't need that lascannon and havoc launcher as you can't fire them in the same turn as the battle cannon.
    Indirect fire is also unneccesary in my opinion, but some guys always take it, so it's up to you. I like to have the defiler out in the open drawing fire, so I don't use it. If you want to upgrade it, chose parasitic possesion or mutated hull.

    nothing to complain about those obliterators I guess..

    Tone down your lords upgrades, he doesn't need all that stuff, and he's way too expensive.
    Drop the dread axe, as it doesn't ignore armour. You should only give him a dread axe if he has daemonic stature as well. To make him good in close combat, give him lightningclaws or a dark blade.

    you need one more closecombat squad in addition to the raptors, I suggest furies.

    Otherwise it's quite a good army. What legion do you play? Black Legion?

    EDIT: Oh, and one more thing, to get more replies you should write your list less complicated, write each squad in this style:

    8x CSM
    MocU
    AC with powersword
    bolters, heavy bolter, plasmagun



    See? Much shorter and simpler.
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    Originally posted by SS_LEO@Jul 4 2004, 17:16
    Come on people......help me out and reply!!!

    What Would improve this army?? Where is it in need of help??
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    Thanks For the input. Sorry for being needy, I am a newb and needed the help. Sorry Bornindarkness, I&#39;ll be more polite.

    What do you think If I remove the Retinue, and add to CSM squads in Rhinos, and remove the Dread Axe for a power weapon??

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    this is the combo I usually use on my chaos lord try it.

    Furious charge
    Terminator armour
    Spiky Bits
    Dark Blade
    D. strenght
    D. mutation
    D. resilience
    D. essence
    CCw

    cost 191, and is perfect for hunting other charecters

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    What do you think If I remove the Retinue, and add to CSM squads in Rhinos, and remove the Dread Axe for a power weapon??
    That would help, but you still need to have at least one close combat squad. The best thing to do would be to enlargen the raptor squad to at least eight models. Swap their meltaguns for plasma pistols, you don&#39;t need the raptors for tank hunting. The only tank hunters you&#39;ll need(unless you play Imperial Guard a lot) is the defiler and the obliterators.
    Remove the terminator armour from your lord and give him daemonic flight, so that he can join the raptors.

    To get points to add more raptors, remove both the small Lascannon armed Chaos Space Marine squads(CSM), you don&#39;t need those. That should also leave you some points to add a nice daemon unit. And you really should remove those upgrades from your defiler.
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    Do remeber that the raptors won&#39;t be able to use their hit and run

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    Do remeber that the raptors won&#39;t be able to use their hit and run
    Because the lord is with them? I&#39;ve heard that before, but didn&#39;t find it in the codex. Anyway it could work quite fine to run with the raptors and leave the lord alone in close combat, he should do fine alone against weak units.. Besides you can just hit the unit the lord is fighting with the raptors again in next turn..
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    No, the raptors stay in cc beacause they want to a ability that the lord hasn&#39;t, the same hapens when a lord with a veteran skill lead a squad that a different veteran skil

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