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Cheesy armies, we can’t escape the fact that some 40k players have the unique talent to create the most filthiest lists imaginable from their army’s Codex.
So I’d thought why not create a thread to discuss about ‘cheesy’ 40k armies that we have played or come across whether it was just observing them in action or being unfortunate to be facing them at the time.
So give us a rough idea of what was in the army and how ‘cheesy’ it was?
I’ve come across 3 ‘cheesy’ lists one of which you will all know which is the nidzilla army with lots of devourers in it, but the other two were just as nasty.
Tau Farsight Army: Sadly this army has lost it’s touch in the 5th edition. It includes: 3 Squads of 6 Fire Warriors, hammerhead, 3 Broadsides with 4 Shield Drones and the most expensive unit ever at around 750 pts…
Farsight, 7 Battlesuits with Plasma Rifles, Missile Pods, Multi Tracker and hard wired drone controller with two shield drones!
That’s 14 Shield Drones to chew through before the battlesuits take any damage and with their jetpacks they’re hard to catch, it was nasty back in 4th edition but with some of the new rules like Kill points and wound allocation it’s not that effective anymore.
Eldar Jetbike Army: This is a nasty army a member of my club recently took to the GT, but because I’m not an Eldar player I can’t provide too much info, it basically consisted of the following…
2 Eldar Heroes on Jetbikes,
A 10 Man Warlock Squad on Jetbikes,
4 Units of 3 Jetbikes for point capturing
And 3 Fire Prisms.
One hard ass unit backed up by 3 Fire Prisms and with the 4 Troop choices held in reserve and kept out the way until the last turn to grab objectives it a nasty list to face.
These some of the cheesy lists I’ve come across anyone else seen anything just as bad?
Good topic to rant about those who "play to win..." at the cost of making everyone else hate them.
The worst one I've ever seen was just recently. I played a space marine player a few weeks back that had a list that went something like this.
I don't remember what the tanks were called but they moved and fired a huge blast template that was str 10 I believe... He brought 3 of them. He also had a chapter master who used orbital bombardment and all his troops were in tanks. It was ridiculous having this many low AP high str large blasts in one army. It was a team battle but by turn 2 my partner had been wiped off the board.
This is the one person who I've fought who I ever felt like they purposefully just hit the I win button.
On the flip side, to introduce one of my buddies to the game I made a cheesed out list for him to fight our other buddy. I put in eldrad, a 6 man warlock bodyguard, and 2 wraithlords. Needless to say, by the end of the game buddy #2 was not amused.
Moral of the story... Cheese wins games, not friends!
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The tank is I believe the vindicator (don't play marines so could have made a mistake ) and the gun only has a 24" range its front armor is good but side and back are very weak. Hit them with ranged AT all you need is a weapon destroyed to make the tank almost useless.
The eldar list was a one trick pony. get a Null field and assault the unit with termies I'm betting the result would suprise you ( he could only have 1 power weapon in the unit and it was probably only a power weapon on the charge ) The flying council fits very well into a fluffy samm hain army the only thing about that list I didn't like is the 4 small units for scoring (which could be killed easy if you can see them ).
I've never run into the battlesuit horde but it is an extremely expensive unit that is still only tau for fighting get a fast unit to tie it up unit your melee can get to it. or target the few troops and laugh as he can't control anything.
"Cheese is the battle cry of the unprepared" is a quote that is floating around alot of boards (I'm not sure who started it so can't give credit) People create lists that try and overload opponents ability to stop them (mass tanks mass infantry) and often this is not called cheese because people take weapons to stop both. Its the same for the armies listed, they have counters just not the normal counters so not every list has the counter built into it.
As for lists that I hate its the 2 lash princes plague marines and oblits. Just never seem to be able to kill stuff fast enough compared to the damage I get in return. And it has very good objective holders.
Its got to be the chaos lash
If Slaanesh is the god of the Perverse, why does Nurgle have all the filth?
Speaking of lash princes... what about 2 lash princes, 3 csm squads in rhinos and 3 vindicators for 1500pts (upgrades included) this is one of the cheesiest lists i've seen or the list i own which is the twin linked devourer nidzilla list
i make my buddy feel like quitting every time he plays me. He plays daemons so he has to deepstrike everything in, i play black templars, not just any black templars, an entire infantry team of black tamplars. Lets just say we played a match with 24" demployment zones and my 2 troops sent out were 2 20 man squads, all nice and spread out. He scaters, off the board, into my unit, off the board, again into my unit. Half his army mishaps 1st turn, most of it is destroyed, 1 squad left, i get to place it where i want. I place it behind my lines, my bolters walk onto the feild and i have 3 squads of 10 bolters and 10 shotguns rapidfiring. Half of his remaining force mishaps and dies. He finally gets Ku' Gath and a squad of plaguebearers on, they get combatted to death. End game turn 3.
in other words, 120 models in my troop squads, half with 3+ armor and the other half with 4+ armor. I like it!
2 warbosses and 2 units of nob bikers with painboy and cybork upgrade.
Armies that esclusively starts in reserve (drop pod marines are the most cheesy of them, though drop troop guard and double autarch eldar are quite effective also).
4th edition marines with 6 dreadnoughts, all with assault cannons and missile launchers. The rest of the army made up of tactical marines in drop pods to snatch objectives later in the game.
Those are the ones I can currently think off.
I dont like seeing Dual-Lash Chaos lists. Or lists with 2 Daemon Princes unless its Apoc.
The Nob Biker squad looks horrible as well-having all differant weapons loadouts so you can spread the wounds just seems....wrong.
I dont like the look of a few of the new Marine lists-but this is because I dont like the special characters at all.
Currently play: 4000+ of Black Legion
Nothing that goes WOW but how's a 1000 Necron Army with 2 MONOLITHS? the player tends to lose in everything except Annihilation games, where his warriors and lord hide behind those behemoths and the particle whip takes down any heavy support capable of taking them down...
Loota Spam behind a massive screen of Boyz w PK nobz is pretty nasty too. Especially with a KFF.
Along with 150 or so boyz with a KFF. That's dirty.
Sternguard Kantor Spam in Drop Pods.