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hi, i just finished a game gains IG and i got thrashed =(
i was wondering what i can do agains heavy guns such as lascannons
well any way hear goes
REMEMBER the hq squade is going to ride in the falcon witch will be moving 24 inches pertern so it can get in range to drop the hq squade
there saposto look like wilde chickens running aroud with there heads choped off, but in actauly there saposeto fininsh off the attach using fof like every trun untill they get in range
gardians 8 114
gardians 7 114
they provide cover fire
ext death spiner
howling banchies 16x9
wave serpint 190
tl bright lance
wave serpint 180
jet bikes 5x35
nothing specal, all reguler with churi cannon
swooping hawks 5x21
total pts 2502
OK this may sound little critical, but I am trying to help:
HQ: mind war is a little unecessary against IG,
Plus using a falcon to deliver 3 guys is a waste IMHO.
I would break your HQ appart, use Eldrich storm as the spell for the farseer and have him join a guardian squad
Put the warlocks with the guardin squads
20 guardians: fine I assume they are guardian defenders or are they stormies? eitehr way they need a warlock
your 2 smaller guardian squads: star cannon are brilliant against Marines but pointless against IG, may as well take shuikn cannon and save the points, but it doesnt really work against IG, they wil lout shoot you, I would ditch the weapons platform completely and go for large guardian squads (20) with warlocks
Snipers (rangers) Brillaint against Greater demons but against IG a compelte waste of points mate, I doubt I would ever field 9 of them in any case, but for the points you can almost get another 20 Guardians, that is either 40 shuriken shots or 60 attacks, which if you are lucky will get you 9 shots, 8 hits, 4 wounds 3 kills, not to mention they are far more resiliant
Elites: you spent far too many points on elites IMHO, the bulk of your points (40%+ should be troops, less than 25% should be elites) anyway:
Spiders - expensive but good
Banshees: the exarch needs powerblades and in any case, I would rather use scorpions against IG
The serpent can not take a holofied upgrade - it isnt a legal upgrade for serpents, and you gone way OTT on the upgrades here, I would drop the CTM
Fire dragons: I would vastly reduce the size of this squad (5 would seem adiquate) it can only be justified at all if you use it to take out leman Russes
Their serpant is illegal as per the previous serpent and needs modifying accordingly
Jet bikes: wouldnt bother against IG, storm guardians are as effetive and you can get 4+ for the price of each bike
Vypers: I would take EML actually, far more effctive
Hawks: way too expensive (points wise against IG, another liability unit, if I didnt love the figs I would never use them). If you must use them give the exarch Web of skulls and shuriken pistol as well as sustained assult
Falcon- you are bunring points here, this is a tank, ditch the Spirit stones and the holo field - just use the CTM. lso dont waste points on the bright lance, the pulse laser is the falcons main weapon, particulalry once you start playing 4th ed, make the other weapon either a star cannon VS marines or chaos, but against Guard, take the scatter laser, althogh it is worth upgrading the TL shuricats to a shuricannon
There, as I say, rather a lot but it is meant constructively
Everything you have been told is a lie!