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First off a little about myself, i currently have a Customishy Space Marine Chapter that specalises in hit and run tactics, using hand to hand combats. this is fun to play but im looking at getting something comlpetley different.
I want a different army allthogther (not space marine) and one that uses heavy fire power and or huge monsters to to overwhelem an enemey, im looking at a 500 point initally but will build up as and when,
but i dont know what kind of army specalise in firepower / vechicles / or monsters that do the quivilant.
if any one has a good indication as to a heavy fire pwoer army with suggestions on certian models it woul dbe great, gives me something to look into and think about / save up some cash
Thank you for yout time and help
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The Imperial Guard are a very shooty army and very good at it.
The Tyranids have huge monsters and regularly use them.
However, the Eldar have both. The Eldar have a wide array of guns with unique properties. Their range may not be spectacular, but they are very shooty. Additionally, the Eldar Avatar and the Wraithlord count as monstrous creatures. Plus, the Wraithlord has the highest toughness of any non-Apocalypse creature in all of 40k.
Thanks for the reply,
Unfortunatly i have little knowleadge of eldar, only that theres eldar and dark eldar, but assume theres variations like chapters?
which would you recomend for a monster / shooter chpater?
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As an aside, the only armies that use monstrous creatures are Eldar, Daemons, Chaos, and Tyranids. Again, this is assuming you're not including Apocalypse models. Daemons don't do much shooting, and Chaos is very close to specialist Space Marines.
As much as Tyranids seem like an army for close combat, most of their monstrous creatures are often equipped with guns. I regularly employ a monstrous creature HQ that shoots 12 twin-linked reroll-to-wound shots.
Also, Eldar are admittedly difficult to use. Many of their models cost a lot. The units do superbly for the role they're designed for and they're mediocre at best for everything else. Also, Eldar are very mobile.
Eldar and Dark Eldar are different armies the same way that Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines are separate armies. Eldar used to have "chapters" (called Craftworlds), but no longer have them.
Eldar have rather shooty models such as the Dire Avengers and Fire Dragons and the rather flashy Fire Prism.
Just note that many Eldar units' guns have shorter range than usual. They make up for this by arguably being the second most mobile army in the game (second to Dark Eldar). Eldar also tend to rely on close combat a lot.
Eldar guns are rather strong, fairly accurate, and many of their weapons tend to shoot more than once. Additionally most of their weapons are either assault or mounted on something.
hmm, well i will have a look through the eldar 'Dire Avengers and Fire Dragons and the rather flashy Fire Prism' if thats what you would recommend.
I just went and had a look through the dark eldar and seems the codex for 5th (which is what i play) isnt out till late this year early next.
Thanks for you help and ill check out these mentiond craftworlds
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Most Tyranid use shooty lists, compromising primarily of big monsters totting piles of guns, (it's called nidzilla).
For Eldar monster-shooty I'd field Iyanden, which is based on wraithguard/wraithlords, very very tough, and very devastating shooting, fluff-wise they use the most MCs. I believe the craftworlds are covered in the 4ed codex, and they are all perfectly viable to field in the codex (it's a fluff thing, just use certain units to be a certain craftworld)
Dark Reapers fit in with the shooty theme, and they're wonderful if you face a lot of heavy infantry.
Imp Guard are rather powerful these days if you wanted to go tank-crazy, their troops aren't as efficient in shooting as eldar, but by gawds are there more of them.
Also, why does everyone forget that Necrons have Monstrous creatures...
Ah yes, the Necrons have the C'tan. I always forget about those.
Even so, you could only field a single C'tan, and the original poster wants monstrous creatures.
Necrons can actually field 10 MCs in one list with tomb spyders + C'tan. Extra spcial melee oriented though so doesn't really fit.
for shooting Hildan, have you considered Tau at all? they're one of the more obvious shooting choices out there as well.
I did originally consider the Tau, but from my brief look it seems like there mecha orineatated, ideally i would like chaos demons with guns but choas space marines are to similar to what i have.
thye Tyranids i used to collect many many years ago, second edition. has much changed since then?
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Have you seen the current Nid Carnifexes? They look waaaay more awesome than they did in 2nd Ed >
I highly recommend them to match your 'demons with guns' description.