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I read over the "featured" blog post only to find that the kid has his army decked out in a nazi theme, and doesn't seem to get why it's offensive (going so far as to call his opponents smug and fake for being offended).
Please take it down before I lose faith in nerds and dorks playing 40k everywhere.
I see where you're coming from, but I personally don't think it's that big of a deal. There are tons of games (Flames of War, Axis and Allies) where you can play as the nazis, and no one's ever had a problem with that. Also, I see Stalin era Russian Imperial Guardsmen, and Stalin was as least as bad as Hitler.
A Nazi themed army is obviously not tasteful, but I don't think it's offensive.
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Oh yeah, there's also the whole bit where he dresses up as hitler, complete with a swastika cape and fake mustache.
I don't know about you, but that might be offensive to some people.
Quote from the blog post
"I even have a giant Nazi flag, a Gestapo uniform and a fake moustache to complete the whole shebang, which I wear whilst playing in tournaments, suffice to say, I regularly win the prettiest army awards. Now this kid’s old man’s old man had come to proudly support his grandson and was a veteran of the concentration camps. One look at my army and he was pissed as hell, on the verge of tears. Took me an hour to explain I’m not actually a Nazi. "
And I see your point about the other games, but in warhammer, you have to spend a lot of time carefully painting your minis...
If you were playing a wargame with minis involving WW2, sure, I'd say that wouldn't be offensive, but when you're playing a game that has nothing to do with WW2, and you dress up like hitler? Wow. I bet he goosesteps to tournaments.
Holy triple post, Batman.
Anyway, painting an army like the Wehrmacht isn't a big deal. I'd be surprised if there weren't IG regiments that resembled them, and they do have a powerful, striking appearance. In fact it actually sounds a little inaccurate, the part where he says that Leman Russes are adorned with huge swastikas, shouldn't that really be the Iron Cross?
Anyway, like mynameisgrax said, it wasn't a very tasteful choice to use that paint scheme, but it's not something to get angry about.
Dressing in Nazi garb on the other hand is out of order.
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I say leave him be. karma will eventually come round and bite him in the ass when someone decides to beat the snot out of him, then maybe he will reflect on what he did and how it affects some people. personally though it isn't that big of a deal to me and many others, but he needs to understand that some people will be deeply offended.
Edited for language ~Rabbit
Last edited by Rabbit; July 14th, 2010 at 06:16.
it really boggles my mind how some people have such little grasp on common decency
You could also argue that the Allied powers fought in WWII to ensure religious and cultural freedom for people. This guy with his Nazi-themed army is exercising his. It really boggles my mind how some people think they have a monopoly on grasp on decency or freedom of expression. Do you also get offended when you see people playing Praetorian (Colonial British-themed IG) or British armies? In India alone during colonisation, the British Empire is estimated to have starved around 29 million in forced labour camps.
It's little plastic toy soldiers. Grow up.
I can understand taking offence if someone expressed ideological support for the Nazis, or mocked the victims of their regime, but getting angry at merely their presentation in media is somewhat touchy.
Although, cosplaying as Hitler may be over the top. I'm undecided here. On the one hand, guy wants swastikas on his IG, he can go nuts - it's not like the swastika is exclusively a Nazi symbol, you can see it in Buddhist temples. It's no less objectionable than soldiers in the garb of Roman legionaries, British colonialists or Red Army conscripts. On the other hand, if you actually own a fake moustache for the purpose of imitating a member of the Gestapo (which isn't even accurate, the Gestapo and the Wehrmacht were two very different organisations) you're clearly just trying to provoke people.
I could also go on about how the Nazis weren't all psychopathic or universally evil - if you wanted a job in Nazi Germany, you basically had to collaborate with the regime to a greater or lesser extent. Vast swathes of the German population called themselves Nazis without ever doing anything particularly evil or racist. Nazis have been kind of typecast as so super evil that absolutely no-one could ever be so evil as they were, but by and large they were terrifyingly mundane. What looks today to be completely unacceptable (dressing up like a Nazi) would have been commonly practiced in 1930s Germany by normal people.
At the end of the day, though, this is no real reason to ban him or censor his posts. There's plenty of much more objectionable stuff on the Internet readily found anywhere you care to look; people seem to get by ignoring that, I don't see why they can't just ignore this guy. He doesn't seem to be actively harassing anybody except that poor granddad at the tournament
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