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I was playing a 1000 point game today; my Necrons vs Orks. I lose a lot with Necrons and I'm desperately trying to get better with them. But what I found myself doing as I was getting creamed was comparing units and their price. I know it's not right, but I let my son use 6 Genestealers in his army because he just got them and he was itching to use them. I found myself amazed at the Genestealers' statline and their price and was struck on how different it is to a Chaos Daemonette. I thought that the Genestealer seemed better (right or wrong). Then I compared an Ork Nob to a Necron Warrior and then a Necron Warrior to a Necron Immortal. I compared point cost to their statline and wargear. I'm not really sure by which the Games Workshop works out the point total for each unit. Are you one who compares units this way and do you even think we should? If you do compare, do you think most units are correct in their point costs compared to other codexes or do you think there is a bit of unbalance somewhere?
they don't work like that, they don't give points according to a mathematical system, my GW store manager (blackshirt) tried in his college days to get the system but failed due too (as he later learned) that it's not mathhammered, rather theyat first make a guess of what it could be worth, then they got a Vanilla list (not the marined I think )against which they playtest the army with those points.
Due to this playtesting not everything always runs like it should, and sometimes things are priced wrong just to make it less attractive (Carnifex/Trygon anyone?), don't forget it's to GW's advantage to let the metagame change (which my footslogging armies will like a lot in 6th edition if I'm correct ^^)
Furthermore there is a kind of statline inflation, Necrons and Daemonhunters (and to lesser extent Daemons in comparison too nids) suffer from this, being older codiices, somehow however the Dark Eldar got away with being the oldest codex and yet be competitive, though very restricted in what is competitive
Dark Eldar Warrior has a better statline then an Eldar Guardian +1 WS,BS, I, and a weapon which is only slightly worse (increased range, rapid fire S3, vs assault 2 S4)
(if this example is too explicit please feel free to edit/delete as appropiate mods)
I can't stop wondering how DE couldn't have been the Uber army back then :p
As far as I know DE werent theuber army for a few reasons
1) Raiders and Ravagers, these used to be even more fragile in the old rules, and I recall the old damage result effects on passengers of a transport used to be less forgiving. Also immobilised used to always be wreched for skimmers, now that's only the case if you move flat out.
2) Dark Eldar armies used to use a larger variety of units and strategies, there weren't all these forums and net lists way back in the late 1990's when DE were released so the list construction was more local trial and error.
3) The local metagame has changed, now we are able to put out large amounts of S9 lance weapons to kill vehicles, so now we can tailor our lists to beat the metagame rather than all comers and have a good shot at winning.
The Emperor Protects
IG Best Gen 1st overall of 10 DE 4th overall of 6
Eldar 3rd Overall/Best General of 26--2nd Overall/Best General of 7--1st Overall/Best General of 11
tbh, i still find myself comparing squad points values and their "true worth" even though i know it's not calculated in this way (and in fact, some armies' choices are deliberately over-priced to reflect relative rarity of certain squad types). Thinking around for a reason to compare in this way, i realise that i usually get provoked into this kind of reasoning in response to the rants of over-energetic opponents.
"No way, my (unsupported) 5-man squad of slightly-above-average assault troops just charged your 7 Plaguemarines and only killed one before they got wiped out.., how did that happen?!!?"
"Um, well, your squad cost 75pts and mine cost 147 + wargear... (The main percentage cost of which goes into making them super-resilient) -- What did you expect to happen?
This is often a much simpler comparison than breaking it down math-hammer with comparisons of S/T/A/I/Av etc.
Of course points don't equate to effectiveness but it is a good quick measure of how effeiciently you or your opponents are utilising your troops.