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So we know that the Grey Knights and the Necron codexes are next to be released, so we won't talk about them. But the question is, which three codexes would you like to see updated next if you had a choice (excluding Necrons and Grey Knights)? For me, I'd like to see updated:
2) Chaos Daemons
3) Black Templars
I don't actually play Tau, but I am a big fan of Xeno armies and love to see them promoted with more models and a more updated codex. Daemons, I play and I believe they need a few more options to make them work better. I just don't know anyone who plays Dark Templars and it is one of the oldest codexes out there, so it needs some TLC.
Daemons are a 5th edition codex, they arn't going to see a new book anytime soon unless they cling to the coattails of the next chaos marine book.
Eldar must up for a new one before too long, as one of the core franchises. Perhaps a 6th edition Eldar/Templar launch.
Most rumours i've seen for Tau real like a fan dex; everything that is already good is made cheaper, stuff that isn't used much is unmentioned, a lot of 'advanced-x-weapon' and 'advanced-x-system'. Nothing that sounds genuine.
They've been getting a fair amount of forgeworld love though.
I agree with A.T. that daemons are fine. They're a difficult army to use, no question, but they're quite competitive.
Instead, I think the Witch Hunters could use a new codex. Many of their units still work great, but their army needs a few more viable options in order to shine. Aside from that, I'd agree that Black Templar could use a new codex (if just to get them more in line with the other marine codexes) and Tau definitely do. You just can't get away with zero close combat ability anymore, especially when the Imperial Guard is better at shooting.
"Any job worth doing, is worth doing with a powerklaw."
What I would like to see happen is Daemonhunters and Witch hunters get rolled together to form a whole new army. I think as they stand, each one feels like half a force. However, I think Tau need the update more, and I think there's enough Marines out there that Black Templar really don't need an update. Course, I'm biased.
Didn't GW redo the Witchhunters just recently and have it available for free on their website for download? Black Templars, Tau and then Eldar are the oldest codexes out there in that order. About Daemons, we had this discussion on a different thread and found that the Daemon codex is officially 4th edition, but it was released so close to the 5th edition rules, that many people believe that it is actually 5th edition rules built into it. That is according to all the information I could find on it. Since the Daemons codex was released in 2008, it will probably be some time before it is released again, but in my personal opinion, it needs some tweeking and I know that many people believe that it doesn't. The Daemons are hard to play and I think they are only competitive against some other armies, not all. Again, just my opinion.
Daemonhunters and Witchhunters got released to PDF last year as they were pulled from the shelves when shortly after 5th came out. Daemonhunters is rolling into GK next, witchhunters isnt getting any love, matter of fact the pdf pulls the allied ability from it, though GW does say that if you have the hard copy codex, you can still have allies, just not with the pdf. Daemons came out close to the same time that Orks came out, and orks is called a 5th army, I see no reason not to think that daemons is any different. Their only real weakness is against armor, and while early 5th proved to be the MECHANIZED spam storm that really bit daemons in the ass, I think with more dexes come out, the more hybrid and even foot lists will hit the tables, making daemons much more competitive. As for not being competitive against every army, there isnt an army that is. They all have Something that can beat them, otherwise every one would play them...
Im hoping for the DA personally, Im tired of playing SM, I want my DA back. Tau are rumored to be on the checklist for next year, and I expect that their already impressive anti everything shooty style will be augmented quite a bit. Templars I expect would be one of the last ones they do, maybe late next year or early the year after. They said they werent dropping anymore dexes again, so you can bet they will be somewhere. Im REALLY hoping they kick out Chaos Marines next year... im hooping they bring back the legions and proper daemons rather than the generic crap thats in the book now.
2 cents paid.
1) Tau- They need it bad. Getting over shot by a lot of the newer codexes out there and to be frank, they don't have a lot of weapon options.
2)Eldar- I play them so let me tell you that we need some love. LOVE YOU HEAR ME LOVE. Not "Hmm looks like they need another nerf again" GW, but LOVE. As the second most advanced race out there it doesn't make sense that almost ALL of our weapons are worse and more expensive than the SM or IG equivilent and they get placed on BS 3 turrets. GW it seems like to say they are sorry for all the OP SM codexes by making the new alien codexes worse. But thats me grumbling again...
3) Chaos- They need it. I would like to see some ol' chaos factions make it back. That and the daemons need rules like Cain said. They may be the only unit out there with no special rules.
Yes as in the book.
And get dem Dragons out of dem Falcons! Downright embarisin sometimes.
Sisters are half a force because the ecclesiarchy/inquisition units don't hold up their end, and it was a bit of a ham-fisted codex - as if someone was trying to cram the old sisters of battle book into the daemonhunters template to promote some other game about inquisitors...Originally Posted by Nitrokitty
Daemonhunters are half a force because that's all they ever were - there are more units in the 'inducted/allies' lists than actual daemonhunters in the codex. Stupid GW rushed marketing gimmic
I'd like to apologize for my lack of knowledge when it comes to the plural of "Codex". I even tried to look up the plural of the word but came up short. It is indeed Codices and now I know. You see, this forum teaches more than just 40k!
I've got an Iron Knight army that I play with the Black Templar codex and I would really appreciate some updates.
It's just not fair. BA get a shiny new codex, but the Templars are left all lonely in the deep cold emptyness of space. Think about your Crusaders GW!
OK, got carried away a bit there. I'm pretty sure that the Tau and eldar players think roughly in the same way for their own force. Even more so, since the templars are not my main army, vanilla marines are, so I've got an alternative. Others are not always that lucky.