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Deathstar unique equipped nob bikers with painboy + warboss (you know that 600+ point one)
How do you feel playing with or against it?
I played against a nob biker list at 2K with my tyranids. He had 2 warbosses, 2 large nob biker units (different wargear) and 2 units of warbikers. I tabled him at the bottom of 4. These "deathstar" armies don't hold up well against balanced lists. It's usually either table or be tabled.
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Your poll options are a bit more extreme than I actually feel about it. Generally, I agree with jy2: my experiences of deathstar units are one extreme or the other. My oppononent either rolls well, in which case they are nothing but frustrating, or rolls poorly and they fold very easily. Because of that extreme, I enjoy playing against them much less than other lists.
I thought it was a topic that most people had encountered so i figured more strong opinions would be out there. That and I for some reason can't get replies to posts I make so I figured if I made a poll with 10 shades of like to dislike then I would get like 1 of everything which wouldn't be informative to me on if I should go through with making a nob biker squad.
I want to make one because I love the models, and it sounds like fun, but if no one would play against me then I wouldn't want to invest my time/money painting them to perfection only to have them sit on my shelf.
I would definitely play against you! I do hate them but that just makes me wanna play against them even more because I love a challenge and they aren't that cheese if you know how to deal with the. and I hate people who don't want to play against someone just because they have a unit that is hard to kill!
Thanks for the replies everyone, so far it looks like my nob squad is a go then. Don't have the money now, but with my birthday at the end of the month I forsee some nobs and some bikes being wrapped neatly with bows and paper.
I'd feel fine playing vs Nob Bikers with my guard, bt not with my eldar. Now Orks with 2 Deff Dreads and 9 Killa Kans at 1000 points? Now that is busted.
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Thats funny, I've never heard of people calling kanwall lists cheesey. Interesting.
One man's cheese is another man's fromage frais!
I think you will find some hostility to the idea but most players will not mind or will relish the opportunity to take them out. Last time i faced Biker Nobz n Boss my opponent had no synergy with the rest of the army and so died around T2 to my Defiler's pie-plate (T1 Lashed them into some ruins but no wounds landed. T2 they killed 3-4 Thousand Sons before my Defiler gained LoS to them and 4 Nobz (from 6) died to instant death. True, he had poor cover rolls but that's the way the cookie crumbles).
I had much more problems with a SM Biker Command squad featuring a Chaplain + Commander (Company Master?) on bike + Honour Guard bikers (i think -- they had some relic blades so i guess they weren't standard biker troops). The big combination of effects, bonuses and rerolls granted to this deathstar unit meant that i couldn't get enough guns on them before they closed in. They proceeded to horse everything and anything in CC.
In short, DS can be a bit hit-or-miss. Personally i like oppos making a large point-investment in one or few units because it generally makes their army strategy more predictable to me. This means i can make less decisions and hopefully can outmaneuver/outnumber them in key areas. Used effectively (targetting one part/side of an army) they can be almost unstoppable, but this alone does not win the fight
Last edited by krytie; March 8th, 2011 at 16:56.
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