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So, anyway, the problem I'm having is that I have tried again and again to get into 40k and also WHFB to a lesser extent, ( bought battle for macragge, battle for skull pass a few rule books and codices and such) and I tend to get really burnt out and lose interest, for a little while at least, lol.
So once again the grim future is pulling me in, and my mate who paints but doesn't play is really excited, (he doesn't play because he is worried about looking silly so wants me as a practice partner).
He has been painting grey knights for ages, and now the new dex he is pushing me quite hard to get started.
He is pushing me towards IG, but I'm still not sure, I like the IG, but I usually try to remain away from the mainstream, and from all the posts I've seen on here, IG are very popular (unless your fighting against them, lol).
So I was wondering 1. How should I keep myself from getting burnt out again.
2. What army should I choose? I'm only wanting to play for fun, win or lose, don't matter to me.
I'd say the most "fun" army might be Orks, they're just crazy. Lots of quirky rules that keep things different. That's just from me playing against them though. Chaos Marines is pretty fun too, they were my first army a while ago.
I was thinking orks, I hadn't even thought of CSM, but it's an interesting idea.
Orks would probably be the easiest to start, since black reach is a good cheap way to get started. But then again, in the long run they would cost more since they are a horde army.
Hmm, so hard to decide?
Well the great think about orcs, CSM, and IG is that they can all be quite competitive. Although they tend to be "mainstream" depending on your local groups, those armies in particular allow you to customize your force quite a bit, both in appearance and unit composition.
Orcs can be extremely colourful or rather grungy/rusty in appearance. They can be played in a horde "green tide" style or be more mechanized and have a greater emphasis on vehicles/walkers. I personally love a lot of their models, but I've stayed clear as my painting skills are good, but not pro by any means yet. In my opinion, orcs that aren't painted with great care, tend to come out looking like toys rather than models.
Chaos space marines are great in that they have such a variety of troops choices in which you can base your army around a specific theme "faction" of chaos. A 1500 pt list would most likely on average include 3 squads of 7-10 chaos marines, 3 transports and a heavy support vehicle. 3-5 Heavy infantry figures (termies/obliterators) and a Daemon prince HQ (just to give you an idea). They have their ups and downs in combat, but with a bit of experience are very competitive/fun.
Lastly, imperial guard, much like CSM are open to a wide variety of tactics and play style. With the guard you generally make a choice: lots of troops (70-100 in 1500 pt list) OR you can reduce the number of troops by taking elite veteran squads, but require a lot of vehicles (7+ in a 1500 pt game). If you don't want tonnes of troops or vehicles, I'd steer way from guard. If you love either of these ideas then you can enjoy one of the top 40k armies that is easily one of the most customizable forces to date. (Their codex takes some getting used to as a new player may get overwhelmed, by the unit compisition or weapon choices available per squad)
If you can try not to make your decision on monetary costs or what you hear is the best army. In the end one force doesn't cost much more than the others, and the strength of an army changes with each new edition. I would suggest looking at the army list sections of these 3 armies. Consider which miniatures you would need to buy and paint. If you love only 1 type of model from an army and hate the rest, it most likely will discourage you down the road. Read some fluff, look over ALL the army's models and try to picture them sitting together in their squads/formations on your hobbie table because thats how you will need to see them everytime you play/paint them. Don't rush your decision, but if you have a few doubts about an army, it most likely isn't the one for you !
Tau my love! You are back!
That is really great advice, I think the main problem that I have had with the 'false starts' that I have had, is that I went straight for the SM's and gave my girl the nids to play with (they ended up looking like a rainbow was about to absorb your genetic material, lol).
I slapped the marines together, and then (noob mistake) hand painted the undercoat, and by the end of that I was already over it. So they ended up in a box until eventually they were thrown out when cleaning out the cupboards (I didn't find out they were gone till I went looking for them last week).
Also I wanted to add that if you feel you truly are serious about sticking with 40k, all is not lost if you are stuck deciding between 2 armies you love equally. Its no crime down the road to begin collecting a second army, you can have both in the end!
Speaking from my own experience, I have only come back to warhammer about a year ago myself after a 7 year break from when I was 15. My tastes have changed since then, thus I had 2 armies lying around that I had no interest in. There are plenty of websites to sell/trade your figures if you ultimately do feel that even after all your careful selection, you may have made a mistake. If you don't mind a bit of bargaining, you can recover on average 60% of what you paid initially. Theres always a plan B!
Tau my love! You are back!
I'd love to be able to paint well enough to get the orks and do them justice, but I haven't even learnt shading yet. I got the 'how to' guide at home and I've been reading till my eyes bleed, but I guess the best way to get better is to just practice alot.
My mate is giving me a baneblade and 3 leman russ's he bought years ago to try and cement my interest in IG. Is there some sinister reason for him wanting me to play IG so bad?
Well if he intends on using Grey knights, I actually think he would be putting himself at a bit of a disadvantage versus your possibly IG. You would outnumber him greatly, have tonnes of high AP/Strength weapons, and his psycannons would keep his troops spending more time shooting chimeras/tanks than actually killing your guard. I would imagine he just doesn't want his IG stuff to go to waste and that by giving you free stuff, he will secure your interest. It sounds like he just really needs a friend to play with because it may be hard to justify collecting his army if he never actually uses them aside from display purposes.
Tau my love! You are back!
Ok cool, I guess I shall try painting up his IG stuff and if I like the look of it I'll do them.
I do enjoy the Commisar Ciaphas Cain novels, just wish GW had plastic valhallans