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    I've made a couple lists for the upcomming Hall of Hereos event, and this is the one im leaning towards because of its ability to deep strike lots of people in order to get objectives or strike behind enemy lines. Anyway im looking for people to critic the list based on your experience.

    Doctrines :

    Drop Troops
    Close Order drill
    stormtroopers
    grenadiers
    sharpshooter

    HQ - 277

    JO w/ ccw, sb
    command squad w/ lasgun x1, gl x2, veteran w/standard bearer

    anti tank squad w/ ml x3
    anti tank squad w/ lc x3

    Grey Knight GM - 145

    Infantry Platoon - 203
    command squad w/ lg x1, flamer x3
    jo w/ ccw, sb

    inf squad w/ pg,
    inf squad w/pg

    Infantry Platoon - 181
    command squad w/lg x4
    jo w/ ccw, sb

    inf squad w/gl
    inf squad w/gl

    Inquisitor Storm Troopers - 171
    w/ hellgun x7, gl x2
    Vet Sgt w/ Artificer armor, thunder hammer and bolt pistol

    Hellhound w/ hb - 115

    Basilisk w/ indirect fire - 125

    Leman Russ w/ HLC, HBS - 165

    Chimedon w/ HHB - 115


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    The Inq ST look out of place a bit, but they are really effective mixing it up and tend to get shot at alot, letting the rest of my army live. The one thing is they can't deepstrike with the rest of my army, but then again I need someone to stay back and defend the antitank squads and tanks.

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    I really don't think that STs are going to protect tanks and heavy weapons for two turns. Since alot of your army will deep strike I woudl invest in a improved comms.
    Also I dont see grenadiers so I think you can use that slot for iron disipline. I think its great for 5pts and it keeps your men in line. It wont work on the STs but hell its better then having your shooty force falling back. Also what are you going to do if you cant deepstrike. I really think you should still get heavy weapons in platoon squads but thats just me.
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    Are you trying to be competitve or fluffy? Do you want specific feedback on being able to win or how creative the list is?

    Once you have asked for more specific help i will comment and try help you out as much as i can.
    IG since &#39;95.

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    Originally posted by Reavered@Oct 28 2004, 00:23
    Are you trying to be competitve or fluffy? Do you want specific feedback on being able to win or how creative the list is?

    Once you have asked for more specific help i will comment and try help you out as much as i can.
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    Are you blind? Read the second line that says "critic", and its for HoH so obviously competetive.
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    Now now, be nice. He&#39;s asking to be polite.

    @ Reavered: You try and change, and they keep dragging you back. :hmm:
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    if your making a drop force you should use sentinels
    and your dont have sufficiant meat to protect your hell hound bassie and lemann.
    i would drop them for sentinels chimeras and more troops.

    good luck
    Best Regards,
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    Well I gave being nice and considerate a shot and within a week 311 has flamed me because I asked for some simple clarification regarding his post. That is so sad.

    I will not flame, but I will point out some things for you 311, just so you understand some basic concepts.

    The word &#39;critic’ refers to a person who is engaged in analysis and interpretation, it does not refer to a behaviour. You cannot ask someone to ‘critic please’, just like you cannot ask someone to mechanic your car. Additionally, a critic may evaluate any area of an item or behaviour, it is not limited to competitiveness. Furthermore, not everyone knows what the ‘Hall of Hereos’ event is, and no one is going to Google it if you are too lazy to mention the specifics yourself. So I kindly ask you to refrain from insulting me further until you can grasp the basics.

    Anyway, I will critique your list for you since your lack of manners does not really bother me.

    JO w/ ccw, sb
    command squad w/ lasgun x1, gl x2, veteran w/standard bearer
    Needs a heavy weapon or nothing. Grenade launchers will not be effective verses marine or equivalent armies which are a large percentage of tourney armies. This squad needs to stay hidden not to expose themselves to fire and shoot ineffective guns.

    anti tank squad w/ ml x3
    anti tank squad w/ lc x3
    This is the worst tournament choice possible aside from ogryns without a transport or a Trojan. These juicy targets will die instantly to an experienced opponent as you have not hidden these expensive heavy weapons inside Infantry Squads as all experienced IG players know to do. What is your reasoning for not giving them the added protection of an Infantry Squad? Not only are you limiting your fields of fire but you are creating a large point sink unit with only 6 T3 5+ wounds.

    Grey Knight GM – 145
    This is totally unnecessary and a waste of points. IG Armies do not need allies and he is taking away from your ability to field more tanks and infantry covering heavy wepaons, which your goal should be.


    Vet Sgt w/ Artificer armor, thunder hammer and bolt pistol
    Point sink, and totally useless in a tournament setting. There is no way that runt will match up to a highly tuned tournament list. Maybe if you want to paralyse your opponents with hysterical fits of laughter he will do the trick, otherwise, lose it and save points.

    Hellhound w/ hb - 115
    Smoke, search light and extra armour.

    Leman Russ w/ HLC, HBS - 165
    Smoke, search light and extra armour. Lose the lascannon, don’t waste your time on other vehicles when there is infantry to kill.

    Chimedon w/ HHB – 115
    Replace with Leman Russ Battle Tank/Vanquisher with above choices if you are serious about winning.

    In summary, you are spending too many points on useless wargear and characters that will achieve little. Focus on massed heavy weapons and battle tanks or artillery. Put your heavy weapons into infantry squads so they do not die in turn 1. Take ordnance tanks and don’t waste your time with tanks that cannot remove marines or equivalent with ease.

    Oh yes, and add Iron Discipline to your Command Squads.

    On the plus side, this list will make you a lot of friends&#33; As everyone loves free wins.
    IG since &#39;95.

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    It looks like a overall Fun list and has room for some great fluff. The problem lies in that is its main strengths are just that. For competition follow what Reavered suggested, he/she knows what he/she is talking about for Tourney Guard.
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    What clarification more do you need, all you had to do is read the first two lines of my post &#33; "Critic" refears to critizing and pointing out good and bad things. You are looking for a fight, not me so don&#39;t bring your problems down on me. I consider it a lack of manners when you go after me over something as trivial as an army list. Maybe its my misunderstanding but Hall of Hereos is a GW tourtiment, one of the purposes is to win.

    But anyway... The anti-tank squads get put behind infantry squads or in cover (trees). Whole purpose being to take down enemy characters after a battle cannon wipes out the squad there hiding in. The GM / Inquisitor, were to fight HQ types in cc. Lascannon on the Russ is to take on 2+ units that may be a late threat (Zaonthropes come to mind).
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    You dont seem to get Reavered&#39;s 311.

    and by the way hall of heroes isnt only about winning, it about showing off the conversions, themes and paint jobs you accomplished.

    and no serious nid player plays with thropes in tourney they are too fragile and ALONE.

    The greyknight by himlsef will get thorn apart by the oppossing caracter and is RETENUE :blink:

    think of sometyhing else like and officer with power fist and comissar with power fist as well
    Best Regards,
    Wolf_Pack

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