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Since i am having a hard time winning with a fluffy force i am going to change to a cheapo one.
1 Shadow Seer 113
1 Great Harlequin 113
1 Solitare 143
10 harlies 250
3 Wraithlord 375
3/w scatter laser
or D cannon
total : 994
so i could add a power weapon to one squad, or im trying to find a better combination of weapons with the wraithlord since i have 0 anti tank power really. Dcannons dont work very well against monoliths....
but luckily my most frequent opponent is a khorne army with only two vehicles... a rhino and a defiler (always fully upgraded and totally concealed anyways... :realmad: ).
OK firstly it is illegal, you need 2 troop choices
Secondly it is gonna get ripped to shreds do to a lack of numbers, something harleys suffer from anyway but particularly in this case
on the Great Avatar and the Solitair, what the river blades and the kiss?? wase of points, take the river blades and a CCW
Add another troup at least, probably conver your existing troup to mimes and add a small troup and a venom
In any case, equip your troupes, take a leader, tool him up, take power weapons in the squad
Ditch at least one, probably 2 and possibly all 3 wraithlords and take some death jesters
Everything you have been told is a lie!
It is not illegal...i just didnt make it very clear.
2X5 squads of harlies...thats 10 guys, but two squads. One of them a squad of mimes who i plan to hide deep in cover. I will take them out of cover when they can for sure get into CC.
The other 5 harlies can die for all i care... The independant chars will be hiding in between teh wraith lords so that they cant be targetted. I guess i could put the shadowseer with the other 5 harlies, but hten he has a chance of dieing with the squad.
The wraith lords are meant to take all the punishment...They can take it. bolters can even hurt it. My buddy has a couple lascannons. and a couple missiles launchers...statistically he wont kill a single wraith lord in a turn. (dont forget the 4+ cover save). so i think im good against shooting.
do you guys really think that this will not work!? o well ill try it with a buddy.
And ill even put a bat rep up :lol:
You better hope there are no land speeder tornados on the board. I've mopped harlequin armies with two of those things. Heavy flamers tend to cook harlies pretty well. And as for the wraithlords....well nothing a scout squad couldn't take on (mine have done it before, mwa ha ha).
The enemies of the Emperor fear many things. They fear discovery, defeat, despair and death. Yet there is one thing they fear above all others. They fear the wrath of the Space Marines!
Well heres the armies i play:
a tank heavy space marine army
and once i played an alaitoc. but i dont havent seen them for a month. So if the alaitoc player comes into the store ill hide. But against all the others ill do fine i think.
The necron player has like 20 troops. Ill just D cannons him for two turns and with some luck he'll phase out.
The tau has a squad or two of fire warriors, one crisis, one leader, one heavy crises (forgot what you call them), and the hammer head
Khorne tons of troops, and a defiler
Iron warrios an evil havoc squad, deflier, land raider
tank heavy space marine all i need to do i shoot down his 3 tanks and he is screwed.
anything that you guys think i missed. or any other things that you tink i cannot handle?
Dont get me wrong mate, not trying to put you down, but from both this list and its comments, plus your posts in the Harlequins forum, you look to have 'toys for the boys' syndrome - you focus on elites, FA, HS and HQ without really getting to use your troops to full effectiveness, it is a style that tends to lead to harlequins, however it isnt a particularly good style of play, you need to get better value from your troops and learn how to use them effectively
Everything you have been told is a lie!
its a shame my feelings on troops arnt easilt understood on teh forum. its not your fault...its the internet i guess. anyways. you should see my other armies. my dark eldar army has:
probabily like 50 dark eldar troops
1 squad of scouges
id say thats fairly balanced.
with this army i have a decent chance of winning.
with my previous harly list i won 0% of games. I only noticed that i got points back on my HQ's and solitare. and i havent used wraithlords before, but I know they will get their points back.
anyways, i thank you for trying to help me. I just dont know how to win with harly troops. I think they are big pieces of poop. that any other army can just step on.
you should IM me and give me some advice how to use the harly troops. Because i sure dont know how.