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Been interested in Warhammer 40k since five years back. Get every single bloody codex last year to get a good grip of the game, though I've a slight problem.
So many armies, so little time. Much less, cash, for in-my-opinion-way-too-pricy-models. xD
So, wondering if you could help me.
Simple opinions are fine, I can validate them or check out my own views in their respective forums.
This is what I'm looking for:
A strong HQ. While I'm all for strategy, and I'd imagine the army as mine being lead to combat, I'd enjoy my incarnation on the battle-field to be the HQ. To slaughter opponents, to have people fear the guy, put all their fire-power towards him.
Strong Elites, Strong Heavy Support. To narrow this down, very strong CC or very strong ranged. Blends are good, but I prefer specialization. (Hence, why I'm recently taken a liking to Eldar! But I'll be damned if I'm gonna' wait until a new Codex hits. :shifty: )
Not Space-Marines. My friend who's getting me into this, uses them. In fact, both people who've I've known, and play it, have been them. And, besides, I enjoy the other race's fluff much more. xD
Pretty open for debate.
Have at it!
The archetypal big bad HQ is the Demon Prince or Hive Tyrant. A Large winged model towering above every other model on the table. They are very customizable to fill just about any role. That's not to say they are the best stat wise or blah blah blah, they just seems to fit your criteria and they can be very effective in CC or even shooting.
The Eldar Avatar is IMHO not a big threat because he is so slow and I love to see him on the table because my armies can always avoid him.
A Dark Eldar Archon (or even better an Archite) is a CC wizard but certainly does not satisfy your craving for a Fire-Magnet-Powerhouse incarnation of your bad self. It's a very small model with a 2+ save that if it fails just once usually means you are insta killed (only T3). People do fear them however, but more in a silent, creeping, dreadful, in the pit of your stomach sort of way, not in the "ZOMG! That's a huge model, it must have every piece of wargear and I'm so screwed." sort of way.
The Tau Crisis suit HQ's that I've faced always hide until the last minute, using short range weapons while trying to jump back out of CC assault range and I either just ignore it (with marines) or assault it anyway (with Dark Eldar). Either way he's never made his points back. I've not played against an ethereal or even seen the stats but I doubt it fulfills the combat monster role you're looking for.
Ork Warboss. A great concept model and looks great on the field but I don't think it really inspires fear and is certainly not invulnerable to massed fire. He's pretty good in CC though. Usually found riding around in a trukk with da Boyz. On the plus side you get to yell "Waaaaaghh!" and nobody will find it strange or even question why.
Strong Specialist Elites:
Teminators with 2x Assault Cannons
Wytches with Wytch Weapons
I only have the Marine and Dark Eldar codexes so I'm only going from experiance of the armies I've played against (usually Orks, Tau, IG or Tyranids). I'm not that familiar with Chaos or Necrons.
Last edited by medic_4077; May 29th, 2006 at 17:29.
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Closest thing I can think of from that description is Chaos marines. Specifically Iron Warriors. Strong HQ, powerful elites, awesome heavy support.
"You challenge me knowing that I am Xiahou Dun!?"
Yeah, while Necrons did, and do, tempt me, the lack of wargear is aggrivating, so the only things that woulld dictate my strategy is really unit-choice. Moreso than other races, that is. However, I still can't shake the (Largely debate-able) Pariah or scarabs out of my head. -That'd- be a fun army. And with a Lord that allows no saving blows of any kind? Shiny. Quaity over quantity, I like it.
Orcs, I have a respect for, but given the Codex and that my local supplier at Alderwood Mall does not carry any pieces.. I'll have to pass. And, they're the quantity over-quality type. Baugh! XD
Dark Eldar I've always enjoyed the thought of -- Though I'd really have to create some custom models. --Tell me, are they as stiff as people say they are? There's apparently a very slight amount of troops which are worthwhile taking I've heard.
Eldar -- New Codex. New HQ? So far away..
Tyranids I'd enjoy, to tell the truth, though the sheer modeling of the myriad of parts they come with would probably kill me. Several times over. xD
Tau, I lied a bit on. Just realized yesterday they received a New Codex-- They'd been working on it last I heard, didn't know it'd been out in the open for awhile. Will probably grab today or this weekend. What can I say? They're midgets, which is a downer, but midgets with Rail guns. <3
Lastly, I've been very close to Chaos. The HQ, as you said. Obliterators are 'shiny'. Reaper Autocannons moreso. Specifically a Tzeentch army. Just that my friend Jack says he'd beat me if I got one, as he's an SM player and somehow that makes Chaos bad, in otherways than fluff.
Sorry to start up a thread from so long ago but if you like a strong HQ, strong elites, and quality over quantity, then daemonhunters might be another choice, the grand master with a grey knight termie retinue is IMO one of the best HQ's in the game (though thats just my opinion), already mentioned are the GK termies, which are hands down the best terminators in the game (again only my opinion), another thing is that the grey knight exempilify the quality over quantity thing, though they kind of lack in the heavy support choices, just ally with witch hunters and get some semi-heavy stuff or some GK dreads, plus they are IMO easily the collest looking models and they have some pretty awesome fluff, one downside (or upside IMO) is that they are very tactically demanding, but I like that in an army, it adds excitement to the games, these are all just opinions of mine, hope this helped, good luck.
Necrons arn't the only ones chaos lords can too. D.Stature and a dread axe.And with a Lord that allows no saving blows of any kind? Shiny.
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