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Code A.D.A.M. · December 10th, 2007, 15:44

I really like the fluff for both the crimson fists and imperial fists, but playing as the CF I feel they wouldn't be in so many battles due to their need to rebuild their chapter's numbers.

So the plan is to use both chapters on the table both armies (under one FOC) some painted as Imperial fists and some painted as Crimson fists. More Imperials then Crimson.

Is it fluffy for one space marine chapter to support the ranks of another chapter? In this example the Crimson fists would be sending some brothers to help out the parent chapter on a regular basis. Does this make sense from a fluff standpoint?

marv335 · December 10th, 2007, 16:12

that sort of thing is called a "Crusade of Brotherhood"
It's happened before. you could even include Black Templars allies and still be justified in a background sense.

darkreever · December 10th, 2007, 16:18

It does make sense for the most part; some chapters have very good ties or bonds with other chapters, this varying from chapter to chapter of course, and if one of those chapters needs help it is likely that they could recieve it from another chapter.

As marv335 said, this is normally seen in the form of a "crusade of brotherhood" but is not limited to just a crusade. (The fluff of my Space Wolves has them in a crusade of brotherhood with a Black Templar crusade, having taken up an ancient vow to aid the Templars against a specific foe.)

Code A.D.A.M. · December 10th, 2007, 17:28

excellent. I would be playing the army as just a codex chapter, therefore the rules would all jive and i wouldn't need to do any sort of allies thing. I was most concerned that it wouldn't make sense from a fluff standpoint.

Sounds good guys, thanks.

distortiondave · December 11th, 2007, 11:53

In a similar vein, in apocolypse battles could you have the Masters of the Chapter datasheet representing the joint command of the overall force?
IIRC the Masters of the Chapter sheet says they should be all from the same chapter but could you have
e.g The Chapter Master of the Crimson Fists, A CF Captain, a BT Captain and 2 IF captains?

You could have a Crimson Fists Battle Company, Lysandar leading a titanhammer detachment and BT's providing an Armoured Spearhead of LRC's full of marines.

Have them fighting a bunch of Soul Drinkers and and have everyone shouting FOR DORN every turn.

Would be cool

December 10th, 2007, 15:44	#1 (permalink)
Code A.D.A.M. Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 25 Posts: 51 Rep Power: 38	Imperial Fist and Crimson Fist army I really like the fluff for both the crimson fists and imperial fists, but playing as the CF I feel they wouldn't be in so many battles due to their need to rebuild their chapter's numbers. So the plan is to use both chapters on the table both armies (under one FOC) some painted as Imperial fists and some painted as Crimson fists. More Imperials then Crimson. Is it fluffy for one space marine chapter to support the ranks of another chapter? In this example the Crimson fists would be sending some brothers to help out the parent chapter on a regular basis. Does this make sense from a fluff standpoint? Last edited by Code A.D.A.M.; December 10th, 2007 at 15:46..

December 10th, 2007, 16:12	#2 (permalink)
marv335 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 106 Rep Power: 34	that sort of thing is called a "Crusade of Brotherhood" It's happened before. you could even include Black Templars allies and still be justified in a background sense. __________________ "i am a leaf in the wind, see how i soar"

December 10th, 2007, 16:18	#3 (permalink)
darkreever Shadow of shadows Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NJ, U.S. Age: 20 Posts: 4,950 Rep Power: 75	It does make sense for the most part; some chapters have very good ties or bonds with other chapters, this varying from chapter to chapter of course, and if one of those chapters needs help it is likely that they could recieve it from another chapter. As marv335 said, this is normally seen in the form of a "crusade of brotherhood" but is not limited to just a crusade. (The fluff of my Space Wolves has them in a crusade of brotherhood with a Black Templar crusade, having taken up an ancient vow to aid the Templars against a specific foe.) __________________ Take my love, take my land, take me to where I cannot stand; I don't care I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me. "The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time."- Lorgar Member of the Fluff Masters Clan

December 11th, 2007, 11:53	#5 (permalink)
distortiondave Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnley, UK Posts: 828 Rep Power: 54	In a similar vein, in apocolypse battles could you have the Masters of the Chapter datasheet representing the joint command of the overall force? IIRC the Masters of the Chapter sheet says they should be all from the same chapter but could you have e.g The Chapter Master of the Crimson Fists, A CF Captain, a BT Captain and 2 IF captains? You could have a Crimson Fists Battle Company, Lysandar leading a titanhammer detachment and BT's providing an Armoured Spearhead of LRC's full of marines. Have them fighting a bunch of Soul Drinkers and and have everyone shouting FOR DORN every turn. Would be cool __________________ I can't say I've seen it all but I live for the things that keep me hollow.

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December 10th, 2007, 17:28	#4 (permalink)
Code A.D.A.M. Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 25 Posts: 51 Rep Power: 38	excellent. I would be playing the army as just a codex chapter, therefore the rules would all jive and i wouldn't need to do any sort of allies thing. I was most concerned that it wouldn't make sense from a fluff standpoint. Sounds good guys, thanks.

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