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I need to lnow everything about the people who side with the tau, why would a human do that (with the lack of noses and everything), whats in it for them, are they treated with respect by the tau? please annything you have to add.
Last edited by lewispetersmith; February 5th, 2008 at 18:49.
The origional Humans that went over to the tau were men who were left behind during the Daemocles gulf crusade, the Tau offered them a choice, join us and get a decent life, work for the greater good, or we kill you.
Now they would obviously been taken as POWs and that gives the Tau plenty of time for propaganda work, converting the humans to the cause, they get freedom (of a sorts) the yolk of imperial oppresion is finaly pushed away and they serve masters who give them a "choice" in life.
thats what i can offer at the moment mate.
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Yeah.. Humans who actually join the empire tend to be prisoners of war. The Tau are big on reeducation camps and things like that, to get people to see the error of their primitive and barbaric ways and realize the superiority of Tau civilization.
If they agree to abandon their savage ways and become civilized, they get resettled within the Empire in small colonies of their own, and given tools and basic manufacturing gear by the Tau. They can maintain themselves at a basic level of technology (including producing lasguns) but are dependent on handouts for the sophisticated stuff. They are also allowed to serve in the Tau armed forces as Gue'vesa.
There are humans who actively join the Tau out of choice. There's one fluff piece where a rogue trader and his crew do just that, but it seems to be pretty rare. More often, unscrupulous planetary governors will make alliances or trade technology with the Tau without actually signing up and joining the Empire itself.
Respect is quite a subjective word.. Sure, they're left to their own devices, allowed to worship and live roughly as they choose, but at the same time they are basically placed in socialized retirement. Tau don't see humanity as having a major role in the future of the galaxy, they're an uncivilized dead end waiting to be 'enlightened' by the Tau, who are destined to replace them as the dominant race in the galaxy..
The majority of Gue'vesa come from POW's. But EPIC has a expirmental ruleset out for an experimental Gue'vesa army that is fully integrated by the Greater Good. They actually come a large solar system of some seven billion, whom joined the Greater Good as an entire system instead of piecemeal. I believe the system was Kleist.
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There's a quite interesting piece of fluff (it may still be on the Games Workshop site somewhere - I generally use the UK one) called 'Cleanse the Xenos.'
It's basically an imperial perspective on a piece of Tau 'propaganda' where an ex-guardsman (missing in action after the Damocles Crusade, as mentioned above) talks about how he joined the Tau after they offered a truce. He tells everyone how cool it is, and recommends they all sign up as well.
I think the Tau generally have a kind of grudging respect for humans, in fact for most of their enemies. While they are convinced that their way is the way of the future, I think they can understand that other races have other beliefs and are quite likely to fight for them.
They seem willing to offer truces and honour surrenders, and also seem willing to integrate anyone into their empire, provided said people are willing to contribute something.
I think the Tau can be very persuasive, and this is how they get people to willingly join them. They can negotiate, and then trade with people, and then eventually convert those people to see things from their point of view and join them. Extra pressure (perhaps in the form of the people needing protection from something, which I believe the Tau would offer) can often assist in their negotiations.
Also, the Tau are based on the outer edge of the human empire, I believe, where people aren't so strong in their beliefs. I think I remember reading that somewhere.
I guess I could sum it up as Survival and Freedom. If something is threatening to kill you or oppress you, and the Tau offer you a way out, I can't see why most people wouldn't take it.
Besides, the nose does not maketh the man/Tau. I think a lack of nose on behalf of those offering you safety would be the least of your worries if a fleet of Orks or a host of Tyrannids were about to descend on you.
In the book Ciaphas Cain Hero of the Imperium (hilarious I recommend it to any 40K fan who's got the time to spare) there is a human planet with a Tau incursion brought on through free trade agreements (rogue traders). Where the Tau have been selling their technology to humans for several generations and as close trade partners go the two cultures started merging. (humans painting their faces blue and following the codes of "the greater good." However the Tau fully support the rights and beliefs of the humans that don't convert to the greater good (which the imperial officers sent to negotiate with them don't get at ALL.)
Tau are willing to peacefully induct humans into their government...Just the imperium doesn't like that too much. As humans stick very solidly by whatever viewpoint they tend to hold, those who join the Tau empire are EXTREMELY loyal to those beliefs, just as imperials are to the Golden throne, and Kroot are to the Tau empire as well.
And I suppose sometimes Tau would force a POW situation (uncommon as that is in the 40k universe hmm?)
I find that unlikely.. Tau don't let most Tau join their government. Their government is, essentially, a group of pheremone secreting God-kings whom noone can question.Tau are willing to peacefully induct humans into their government...It's not uncommon for Tau. They don't go in for random massacre very much, so what happens when they capture territory and you're left with a bunch of uncivilized barbarians occupying it?And I suppose sometimes Tau would force a POW situation (uncommon as that is in the 40k universe hmm?)
thanks guys, i appreciate it a lot, the reason i was asking was caus i was thinking of writing a liitle story on theses guys and i needed a basis of information, annything else to add would be a ton of help too, and the lack of nose thing was caus of a joke thread that was up a couple of weks ago, just incase it seemed wierd. wellps anny tips or anny concerns or annything you guys think i should put up would be much appreciated.
I didn't mean the government as power structure, I meant allowing humans to join the greater good as a whole, suppose society is the word I was looking for instead. I meant more that if someone is willing to join the Tau Empire the Tau don't tell them to shove off.
Just a quick correction: if you do not join the Tau Empire, they don't kill you as BotherAzriel said. You just remain a POW until you convert, die, or are freed (though I don't see this happening).
There's more fluff about this in the Tau Empire Codex, and a free PDF on GW's website.
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