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From what I've read on Tyranids, it seems to me they'd be unstaopable almost. What force in the galaxy can stand up to them and beat them. We can be pretty sure more hive fleets are on the way. First thing that popped in my mind was necrons, since they are already dead. They can't be consumed by the nids. Thing is they probablly do not care. Orks also came to mind, our galazy's swarm army that can't be beat. Though Orks and nid's would probably go on for eternity. Then there is chaos, though that's iffy i think. I'm pretty sure that the ruinous powers have as much to loose if the galaxy is eaten up and there will be no emotions for the warp entities to feed on. Shame there are no hive fleets near the eye of terror. I'd love to see what happens when it went in and Shadow of the warp meets the warp gods.
Firstly, I seem to remember Nids instinctively try and avoid warp anomalies if they can help it, so they're unlikely to go into the Eye themselves by choice.
Secondly, the Eye contains millions and millions of people. Well.. people in inverted commas, and the Gods receive prayer and emotional sustenance from them.
So chaos seems pretty set up.. for the time being at least.
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; March 10th, 2008 at 18:50.
Ok, millions of prayers, versus the billions of souls that inhabit the imperium. Chaos would try something in my opinion if that supply was threatened. I beleive Nurgle had made a plague to affect the nids. I'm not 100% sure, I would like confirmation. Sides, I know there will not be a hive fleet near the eye of terror. It's still a fun idea to ponder IF the nids made it that far. Or if another Hive fleet appeared on the western fringe of the galaxy.
Well, Hive Fleet Leviathan marched it's way into the galaxy in two prongs, with one being destroyed by a bio-engineered disease, This may be what you were thinking about. The other was lead to Ork space by capturing genestealers and putting them on a space hulk headed toward said Ork territory.
Either of these are feisable, but also has a great toll on the Imperium. Option A: Shold the disease path be taken then the Imperium would have to hold the Tryanids in place for a time untill Deathwatch teams have administered the disease to the Norn Queens, at a great cost of life and there is also the possibility that Norn queens will become immune to the disease.
Option B: is (in my opinion) the least favourable of the two. The problem is that BOTH races thrive on war. While the Tyranids gain more biomass from consuming hordes of Orks, the veteran Orks get bigger and bigger due to the constant fighting. The threat is that one will become dominant and throw off the even balance currently maintained.
It's those, or think of another option that would not have dire remifications should something go wrong. Only problem is time, as it is running out fast for the Imperium.
Well, the more time the Nids pour into the Ork-held worlds, the more energy they will spend. They will be consuming biomass, sure, but will it keep up with their needs? I mean, all that killing takes a lot out of you. Do they have any other sources of energy? Otherwise they might not be able to keep up with their constant kill/feed/repeat cycle.
Well, apparently according to their fluff, since they have never yet been stopped from running out of energy, even when Kryptman made his giant span of dead worlds, though it did weaken them, I would say that fluffily, they probably aren't going to run out of energy anytime soon, and the orks and nids can both keep reproducing till the end of time, so it's going to be a long war.
The Imperium could definately crush the nid fleets that have been presented thus far, if they could get their act together. The problem is that the Imperium is also fighting the orks, eldar, chaos, tau and every other race out there. If they ever unified for another great crusade, the force would be large enough to crush almost anything in it's path.
Necrons will get eaten I believe. They aren't too plentiful. Nids consume water, rocks, oxygen, I think they can eat a living metal skeleton. Although it would be interesting to see what the C'tans would do in the face of the Hive Mind. All that psycher power has to freak them out a little.
Chaos, well, the nid fleets should be making the gods extrememly powerful. By the time they got to the Eye, hypotheticly, from all of the destruction they caused, it would seem like the Gods would have gained a lot of power from the hate, dread and other bad emotions released during the deaths of trillions of people.
Just my take on the races you mentioned.
Originally Posted by The Paint Monkey
Of course the existence of larger (MUCH larger) fleets somewhere out there waiting for the right time to swarm in is entirely conjecture. if the Imperium is lucky Leviathan MIGHT be the last one. Okay, it isn't, but it COULD be
And given Kryptmann and Co's sucess at engineering tyranid-killing diseases, there is another weapon in the Imperium's arsenal right there.
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Prayer is more valuable than random ambient emotion.. I can't see Chaos leaping to humanity's aid, though perhaps they'd come to the defense of chaos worshiping societies elsewhere provided they were important enough.. Otherwise, I guess they sit back and laugh while their ancient enemies get munched.Originally Posted by Hashulaman
Of course.. If the warp went quieter maybe the eye would shrink.. But I doubt anyone save a few crazed Tzeenchians would have the foresight and connection to the warp to realize that might happen.While I agree Necrons aren't quite immortal (they need tombs to opperate from) they functionally are in most regards. Dismembering them (and eating them I'd imagine) only incapacitates them until they reanimate and reform/regrow lost bits, and besides they tend to phase out when 'killed' anyway.Originally Posted by Warrior47
Eating them might be a really bad idea.. Stomach linings are soft, and I have images of severed Necron limbs bursting out of Tyranid chests. Like 'Alien' in reverse..
And again Tyranids avoid tomb worlds for the opposite reason they avoid warp-anomalies.. The hive mind uses the warp to sense, and tomb worlds have massive pylons to block out warp energy..
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; March 11th, 2008 at 01:56.
i think that choas would fight against the nids, in my mind the imperium and chaos marines are tied together, they hate each other yes, but if it came down to it, i think chaos would rather fight nids than see there nemisis destroyed by someone else
Well, it may not seem like Necrons are plentiful, but we don't really know how many there are, and the fanbois would have you know that that unknown number is in the billions. But yeah, I'd like to see them eaten. Though as said, they don't get attacked by Nids. But they might attack Nids in force- their gods need food after all, and if the Tyranids eat it all, well, think of it like 'dammit, the fridge is empty,' except multiplied by a few dozen trillion.