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This is something I've always wondered about. If a necron is the base skeletal structure of the necrontyr, the things must have been enormous. By simple size comparison (and I know model aren't precisely to scale) A 'cron is around a head taller than a marine while hunching. So marines being...8 feet tall in full power armor, this make a necron warrior in the realms of 10 feet. Immortals and lords slightly taller.
It makes me wonder if necrontry weren't originally akin to fantasy trolls in size.
Or are they the stereotypical "space humanoid" and necrons are twisted enlarged versions of the necrontyr skeleton.
Or they could have maybe been Old/Ones eldar skeletons to unnerve their enemies troops. The elongated skull gives a slight impression.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but it never says that the Necrons were designed in the same size and shape as the skeleton of a Necrontyr. I believe that, just because the Necrons are large and rather sinister looking, does not mean that the Necrontyr were as well. In fact, I believe the opposite.
We do know that the Necrontyr were a cancerous race, prone to sickness and short life (as the codex leads us to believe). As such, I always imagined them as being a frail, physically weak people, their bodies wracked by their cancers, which is partially what made them so easy for the C'Tan to sway them towards becoming the strong and immortal Necrons.
Besides, a normal size skeleton structure wouldn't be half as intimidating as one that is slightly more monsterous, yet still retaining humanoid form. I don't think the C'Tan and the Necrontyr were looking for biological accuracy. They were looking to create a body to scare the living daylights out of their opponents.
Of course, this is just a theory. Would be interested to see if anyone knows of any actual mention of this.
Last edited by Zarak; June 19th, 2008 at 08:40.
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Who knows, maybe the first thing to become cancerous was their noses......
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The Necrons' appearance was meant to be as sinister and ominous as possible, so it's entirely likely that they look nothing like the Necrontyr off of which they're based.
They probably looked like normal humanoids, living "short, blighted lives".
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I would have to agree that they were probably short, stunted humanoids and then C'Tans made them into the base skelital form of most of the intelligent races, only larger and scarier. Just something to be recognized as death incarnate.
Well.. they evolved on an irradiated deathworld so they won't have been pretty pretty..
I always imagined them as gaunt, skeletal humanoids with pale, discoloured skin and hunched, emaciated frames.. Possibly quite zombie-ish and covered in irradiated rotting bits. I see them as sort of like the necrons in stature. Probably around humanoid size, but more pathetic than the beefy, scary look necrons have now.
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; June 19th, 2008 at 15:48.
Well it is said that the Necrotyr developed god like technology to make up for they're physical weakness, much like Tau. So I imagine that the Necron look was made to stir fear into the enemies as much as possible (the C'tan love fear) which is probably the reason behind the flayed ones and wraiths.
Now with that in mind theres probably a Necron titan that is unknown designed specifically for that.
Interesting topic though.
Personally, i see them as half-insane, big headed humanoid, quite strong for a few years, very weak in old age. Let us not forget, they fought a war with the old ones without the c'tan at first.
On a similar note, what do the dragon and outsider look like?
Please, please in the name of all that is holy let's not start that one again! There are a million threads with this kind of thing on them and most of them became that way when someone asks something like this. I'll answer that question for you so we don't have to see another reasonable thread hijacked - nobody knows. Anythng else that you hear is pure speculation.On a similar note, what do the dragon and outsider look like?
In response to the original questions - I agree that they would probably just be sickly little humanoids. Of course - I absolutly love the idea that they were made to look like the old ones or the eldar to sow fear in the enemy - that is a brilliant idea! Unfortunatly, that isn't the route that GW have specifically gone down - but thay haven't said that that definatly isn't the case either.
I'm inclined to believe that they were designed to look like death incarnate - not only to scare enemies, but also to encourage the Necrontyr to join up! What better way to cure fear of death than becoming death incarnate?
*clears throat* Getting back to the topic, this is an interesting discussion, but may I humbly suggest we are all thinking a little too much about this?
Re: size, I can think of a much more reasonable (albeit more boring... sorry) reason they are "bigger." It's because they are hunched. If GW made them to scale first, THEN hunched over the bodies, they'd be like squats. The reason they are so tall when "stood up" (converted) is that they were never meant to do so. The bodies may be out of proportion, but that's so that, even hunched, they are roughly the same size on the battlefield as most other "grunt" footsoldiers. Least that's my opinion. It certainly wouldn't be the first time GW played fast-and-loose with scaling to fit gameplay (*cough* transports *cough*).
As to what the Necrontyr looked like, I've searched high and low for a sketch, artwork or even a written description. If it's out there, I haven't found it. Probably done on purpose to emphasize the soulless mystery of the necrons. Showing what they "used" to look like makes them look more human and less "terminator"-y.
The fact that they look like humanoid skeletons certainly suggests the Necrontyr used to look quasi-humanoid. Maybe they really were once as tall as the skeletons "really" are now. Makes me wonder how tall they'd have been were it not for their "stunted" growth.
At any rate, I think they look the way they do for the same reason the "terminator" does. It's a mechanical (albeit animated) life form, which, if built for maximum efficiency, wouldn't look that much different from a walking skeleton. It makes logical sense. The fact that it scares the heck out of others is probably a perk.
Just my personal opinion. I've been wrong before.