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Isn't it funny how all of the marine chapters are divided by ethnicity?
Quintessential white guys- possibly Roman
It just got me thinking, with the new possiblity for themed armies, wouldn't it be fun to do a chapter on ethnic sterotypes?
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why are DE natives? also blood angel are arian
What are imperial fists?
Fists are sort of Greco/Roman, like the Ultramarines.
And the Salamanders are not necessarily 'Black.' Their primarch was, but they are in no ways more 'Black' than anyone else.
Similarly, why are Crimson Fists hispanic? They have one Captain called Cortez..
And the original blood angels came from a radioactive deathworld where they will have been scarred hideously.. it's not all uncle Adolf and his blonde kids in Speedos.
There are a few cultural (not ethnic) keys in here and there. The White Scars are loosely Mongolian, yes, and the Black Templars are loosely German (in reference to the Teutonic order.) But most chapters recruit from hundreds of different worlds and thus don't have to be divided ethnically at all.
GW just rather stupidly assumed that most people in space would be white because they were.
Aside from Space wolves who are exclusively Norse/Celtic
as mantis said above there isn't a divided "ethnic" groups at all... hell if i recall correctly racism hardly even exists within the imperium.. outside of pure humans.. towards abhumans and mutants... ofcause... they are abhuman and mutants... grimy.. lil' traitorous mutants...
Humanity has progressed far from such trivial problems.
Agreed, apart from historical/fantasy inspiration such as the Nordic flavour of the Space Wolves and the Roman imagery of the Ultramarines I dont think there are any racial limitations on any marines.. recruitment may be limited to a certain planet perhaps for some but no plantet consists of only one racial type anyway.
You COULD have a black guy in the space wolves and it wouldnt matter at all.. he would still abosrb all the cultural traits of his chapter. And be nordic, just black with it. Likewise I doubt every White Scar is what we would describe as oriental.
As an aside, culturalyl the Space Wolves have a very Germanic/ Norse feel to them yes, but not very Celtic. A celtic themed chapter however would be very cool.
i always pictured DA as sort of lithuanian. in that they got a fair bit of shamanistic characteristics in there, then you've got the robes, cowls and huge swords which strike me as being teutonic. teutonic as in their very nature is dark.
whereas i'd place the black templars with the 'knights of saint john'
with BA, i'd say they are russian. (i don't really know why)
ok, this next question may seem incredibly foolish to all you experienced fluffists, but why do people always say Ultramarines are romans. i reckon they are more like Charlemagne and his Franks or the French of later ages. to me Imperial Fists are roman/greek.
i, personally, wouldn't say the space wolves are celtic, as there are a fare few differences in culture (namely how the celts were a hell of a lot nobler, honour-bound and overall better than the vikings. i got celtic/irish heritage incase you didn't know
Tutankhankh, where'd you get that from??And they ate people. Nice guys.
As for Dark Angels I believe it was just that one Death Wing squad (the famous one where the White uniform comes from) that came from a roughly 'Native American' Planet.
The rest of the Chapter are more like a European knightly order.
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