The necron threat

[omegoku]

Originally Posted by Hive Fleet Hydra

FYI: Tyranids don't NEED the Warp. THey actually smother it to prevent communication. And its also been predicated that the Tyranids encountered so far are around 0.000001% of the actual Tyranids.

They need it to communicate.
Synapse messages go through the warp, if the Warp is unaccessible, all the gaunts will mill about aimlessly and the Tyranids are easy pickings.

Should the Necrons shut down the warp (highly unlikely) the web way would still remain open for business as it is separate from the warp.

[Tutankhankh]

Would it? Or would it simply collapse or be destroyed, as it lies in between the Materium and the Warp?

[luke.noorda]

a united force of all the Adeptus Astartes? please... also with rumours that Roboute Guilliman is healing, even within the Stasis Field.
if there ever will be a massive Tyranid invasion, ork WAAGH! or Black Crusade, i merely pray that it happen after/if Roboute wakes up, imagine the greatest Tactician, second only to the Emperor, commanding a 1000x1000 Marines? The true God of War = 'nids f*c%ed, Orks f*c%ed, Chaos f*c%ed, Necrons f*c%ed, E and DE are already f*c%ed and the Tau are a bunch of altruist (space hippies).

nah, you hear enough stories about the goodies banding up to take on a more dire threat, that i believe that the Imperium, the Tau Empire and the Eldar would team up. dunno how effective such a union would be, though.

cheers!

[World eater]

If the Necrons were to stir up, some of their forces would be in very tactical positions. With the void dragon being on Mars he'd be a mere foot step away from Terra. If all went well (or wrong depending from where you look at it) the Necrons would knockout one major faction within the Imperium.



Just to add to luke's comment on the Primarch fighting once more, you're forgetting Lion El'Jonson.

[Imperialis_Dominatus]

And Corax, Russ, Vulkan, Dorn, and Khan. Ferrus and Sanguinius (Emperor bless him) are pretty well dead though.

[omegoku]

They all said they'd be back or hinted at it, except Blood Angel guy who got killed by Horus, and Ferrus who got killed by Fulgrim

[Kai-Itza]

Originally Posted by DaemonPrinceMindrot

Tau would be tricky, as the Tau have the firepower to deal with the stronger Necrons for a while, but couldnt last forever. PLUS tau have the emp grenade, which hints that they could develop emp technology further to disable the mechanical necrons.

Unlikely imo, as the Necrons are in fact not mechanical, they do not depend on electricity or plasma-related power sources. They power themselves at least with the souls of the Necrontyr; their life energy, given a metallic shell.

EMP-type technology would do squat against them, apart from giving them a laughing-fit



-Kai-Itza-

[DJinni]

Originally Posted by Hive Fleet Hydra

FYI: Tyranids don't NEED the Warp. THey actually smother it to prevent communication. And its also been predicated that the Tyranids encountered so far are around 0.000001% of the actual Tyranids.

an the first wave that starts colonizing are like a scout using his binoculars to look around.
the Army that eats the planet is the scout.
these hive fleets that almost destroyed ultramar, and have been seen as teh unstoppable behemoths tide of war are equivalent to the scouts unit....
think about where that unit came from...who THEY are scouting for, and how much is backing them up and you have an Idea. the tyranids are encroaching upon this galaxy because they already ate the one they are coming from...and the one before that...and the one before that...

necrons went to into hibernation because there was nothing left to conquer and their C'tan had nothing left to eat.

if it was coming to an end, the end would be between tyranids and necrons. chaos has the warp and will always encroach upon reality, but not where the tyranids have turned it off.

[Leech]

The races of the galaxy are basically hairless apes that are good with tools. That they are sentient makes them flawed. Sentience appears as a evolutionary trait. Tyranids have abandoned it because it is a grossly flawed way for a species to be. Any ability that evolves must be proven to work and benefit the species. The ability must clearly remain useful for over a million years. Humans have been sentient for only a fraction of that time. That it allows technology and a spread of humanity is worthless from the perspective of evolution. Evolution, survival are all that matters.

Sentience has led to overpopulation and psykers appearing and wreaking havoc. This could easily lead to the extinction of humans. This has happened because humans are sentient, it would not of happened if they were not. If humans were not sentient they would of stayed in the trees and survived. Power, culture, knowledge, technology are worthless and utterly expendable compared to survival. The Eldar too became sentient and this resulted in the fall of the Eldar which also created their worst enemy, Slaanesh.

This is obviously flawed as the Eldar could of remained as animals and be perfectly fine. The Necrons are also hairless apes that are good with tools. The Necrons evolved to become sentient and then found the C'tan. The C'tan enslaved them and turned them into some form of super-zombie. This is an awful result and was caused/enabled directly by their advanced technology. Technology is produced only by the primitive hairless ape types species which have flawed, worthless sentience.

The C'tan are also hairless apes in a way. They were once powerful beings that fed from stars. Then the C'tan were discovered by the Necrons and given worthless power and dominion. What the C'tan then did was not to clearly see the flawed nature of the hairless ape species. The C'tan instead decided to copy the hairless apes, they even went so far as to have special suits created for themselves which mimic the appearance of the hairless apes. The C'tan empire which they built was then obliterated and most of the C'tan were exterminated.

The C'tan used to number in the thousands and had existed for billions of years. Then they had a brief few years behaving like the hairless apes and being sentient. This caused the C'tan to go from a race of thousands to four (known) and maybe a few others. It may of taken millions of years but that is no time at all compared to the billions of years that the C'tan survived and thrived. This was all caused by them copying the hairless apes and being sentient. Now the C'tan want to continue behaving like the hairless apes and continue to encounter problems. Such a flawed species will only be prey.

[luke.noorda]

actually (i think it has been mentioned before), the Chaos gods would probably cease to be due to either the 'crons harvesting the Galaxy or the 'nids eating it. the Necrons can't (AFAIK) be affected by Chaos and the 'nids are protected by the massively psychic Hive Mind, so when humans and eldar are wiped out they got no more worshippers

but...
i've heard that the 'nids become mindless killing machines/animals when their psychic link with the Hive Mind is destroyed by the death of synapse creatures...? true?

if so...
lets say the 'nids decide to send a Hive Fleet of Behemothic proportions into the Eye of Terror, but get more than they bargained for when some Chaos Daemon Prince (Abaddon, or someone), figures out how to kill all the synapse creatures, and so has legions of mutated, daemon-infested gaunts to throw back at the Hive Mind(s).
would Chaos be able to hold out in that way?
or are Gaunts are unlike humans and eldar, in that they are immune to the taint of Chaos?

cheers!