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Well, before I go into the meat if this discussion, can I have a show of hands of people who own, have borrwed, can borrow or otherwise have read a copy of Xenology, and have found some 'interesting' fluff regarding the Tau?
Till I know there is a good audience for this I won't ruin the secret for anyone else...
I eagerly await replies (thread meat ready to cut and paste when people show hands ).
I'm in the department that Xenology's attempt to tie every damned race in the galaxy together is a bit silly. But show us whatcha got.
Own Xenology here
Well, the Tau, Eldar and Q'Orl entries all hint towards the diamond shaped organs attached to the brain of the Q'Orl and Tau Ethereals being pretty much identical, with Eldar involvement in capturing a Q'orl queen.
This seems to hint to me that the favoured weapon on the Old Ones is attempting to do a bit of their own genetic jiggery pokery... I just wondered what people's thoughts on this connection were?
IS Xenology the ramblings of an insane Biologis or do you think that he is on to something?
I must admit I am in the Old Ones camp with the origins of the elder 'young' races, with Humanity being in that hazy zone of 'are we, aren't we' and Tau seemingly being a 'third generation' species. (Fourth Generation if you take into account the apparent 'two-stage' deployment of Old One bred species)
I could go into more detail on my personal view of all of this, but I want to see what everyone has to offer in the way of view points, support/condemnation of this 'Unified Theory' of 40k species (Tyranids and Necrons aside).
Last edited by Sokahrthumaniel; October 28th, 2008 at 00:23.
I am supporting the idea that the Tau just "are" and to hell with all others. To me this EPIC PLAN that spans hundreds of million years and who connects everyone from Ignorant Earth Caste Worker nr. 3246 to Eldrad Ulthuan in some GRAND SCHEME to save the universe from the C'tan is just waaaay to over the top and not very original at all.
If I remember Xenology right as well, the author makes some very wrong assumptions of Eldar Gods and the Old Ones as well, which does not really ad to its credibility.
Fair enough, though I would argue that the author did not make wrong assumptions about the Eldar Gods and Old Ones as it is all told from the POV of a Radical Inquisitors half-informed literature, a mad Biologis or an ignorant half-radical Puritan, so is more coloured by ignorance or misinformation than the author's wrong doing.
I can see how some would say it is all over the top, but I guess that I personally like that 'epic' feel . Each to their own.
Last edited by Sokahrthumaniel; October 28th, 2008 at 01:31.
When I wrote 'author' I meant the actual author of 'Xenology', not the fictive writer (Simon Spurrier?). If I remember correctly he makes the mistake of mixing up the Old Ones and Eldar Gods and makes the assumption that Old Ones = Eldar Gods and vice versa, which is of course quite wrong. I could be wrong though, since it was some time ago I read it.
Ok, but is it bad thing? I mean I'd be more put out by blind speculation hitting the nail on the head, than an incorrect source written from a flawed POV.
What's your view on the Necron/C'Tan/Old One fluff in general?
Well it's a pretty broad subject... IMO the creation of the C'tan as the ultimate baddies was a bit 'meh' since I thought Chaos and Tyranids did that pretty well.
As I mentioned earlier I don't like to think that there's some grand plan in the background with the surviving Old Ones gently trying to push the galaxy the 'correct way'. For me the Old Ones are long gone and many of the races in the galaxy are simply the result of evolution. They cross a bit to much with Fantasy as well, since I like to keep those two separated.
I think the Necron and C'tan fluff is in dire need of an update to add a little more spice to their arguably dull race. At the moment they really push the feeling that whatever everyone else does, in the end the galaxy is doomed to complete destruction and that all shall be slaves to the C'tan to feed their insane desires. We get hints of a lot of infighting and that's defiantly something I would like to see more of, to shake it all up a bit more and get rid of that picture that the Necrons are completely unstoppable and the only thing we can do is roll over and submit ASAP.