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Hey, the last couple of nights i've been dreaming about a diorama to make (wow that sounds bad). It would combine probably a hellhound or chimera IG tank being stopped by a space marine with a power fist. This marine would be like upper-cutting the tank. Now that's all really cool or whatever you think, but would it be possible? Obviously the PF in gaming terms allows someone to double his strength, but would that double strength even allow a marine to say knock a tank into the air or off the ground? So the general question I got is
WHAT WOULD A SPACE MARINE WITH A POWER FIST ACTUALLY DO TO A TANK IN A DEATH OR GLORY SITUATION
There's obviously not one answer, but I want this diorama to be realistic to what he'd actually be able to do. So if all he could do was jump onto the tank and punch the driver in the head then that's the answer.
so what do you think?
well, if he's a captain or a chapter master, he'll be hitting at S 10. So i that case, i'd say he could at least uppercut it into the air. Now, if he's a sargent, then i'd more depict him punching through the visors on the front, or jumping on top and ripping open the tank, or even ripping the treads off. But i think with a captain you could have the uppercut move.
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yeah, I agree with albino...
for a sergeant I'd have him standing braced, whilst holding a Bolt Pistol with both hands, and having the driver of the tank fatally popping his head out the top to see where he's going... head shot.
for a captain I'd say with an upper cut he would bend the panels in and up on themselves, and maybe lifting the front area of the tank (empty troop carrier, chimera). but I would say that from the front, he couldn't lift the entire tank of the ground.
but an ork trukk I can see a Space Marine Captain as EASILY flipping it a few times in the air.
also, just from curiosity, are you going to be painting the marine as a salamander? if so, a thunder hammer would be more able to take down a tank, in my opinion. i'm thinking having the entire front of the tank smashed nearly into the ground with the tracks caving outwards, while the back of the tank could be modelled as though it has bounced up into the air from the shock, maybe even with a few wild eyed traitor guard flying out...
another concept I just had, was a Storm Shield wielding marine is crouching with his shield sloping into the ground in front of one of the tracks of the vehicle, waiting to capsize it, all the while shooting at the tank with his Boltgun... or maybe have it as though the tank is already on top of him (his storm shield) and he's exerting all his effort to lift and capsize it...
Really really cool concept for a diorama you've got there!! you'll have to post your process in the Modelling/Painting Forums.
and sorry for ranting, but you sparked my etherealistic imagination...
Last edited by luke.noorda; November 21st, 2008 at 21:09.
Now while a Captain might be able to upper cut a tank (though I don't know much about physics isn't there problems with tactile strength and stuff...wouldn't he just rip a huge chunk out of it....?) I think what would look cooler would be a tank with its front third completely crumpled as if it was a lorry that had hit a cliff face. In front of the tank is a Captain on one knee with his powerfist embedded in the wreckage....
The captain has basically braced himself put his arm out and the rest is history.
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yeah, that'd work, and'd be pretty cool. as though the driver just assumed his tank could easily crush a single marine... 'tis the end of his military career... and his tank.The captain has basically braced himself put his arm out and the rest is history
as another alternative, although it would most likely be impossible, you could have the marine holding the front of the tank up with one arm, so it can't go anywhere, while facing the other way and shooting somebody else...
or you could have a librarian stopping a tank neo-style...
Wow, awsome ideas here that I really think I could use. While stopping the tank Neo style would be cool, you'd have no way of showcasing really him doing it would just like hes holding his hand out saying stop a la Tiananmen Square.
The thunder hammer idea is really good with the middle of the tank being crushed by the force of the hammer coming down. Alternatively, when i first read it, I thought maybe of like a Tiger Woods kind of golf swing with a thunder hammer knocking it into the air, or atleast knocking one side of the tank onto it's side.
As per your suggesting that a captain has a S10 attack, i wonder how you got that. Cause all SM are S4, even special characters. So captain or seargent, would be the same.
Visitors idea rocks. Perhaps model the Marine as though he just threw a haymaker, driving the crushed front of the tank into the dirt, causing its rear to lift.
Fluff wise, a space marine can clip over a rhino (or maybe a couple SMs could) so I don't see why one with a power fist couldn't ruin the tankers day like you propose.
well, a space marine has an exponential increase of strength over a human. a man at absolute peak conditioning can lift 800 pounds over his head. a m2 bradley (infantry fighting vehicle, similar to chimera) weighs 30 tons, or 3000 pounds. cut that down to 1500 pounds, as the marine wears a powerfist which doubles strength. combine power armour strength enhancements with marine gene-seed implants, and the marine could very well lift an infantry fighting vehicle up over his head.
as for the 'neo' thing...perhaps an effect resembling force lightning, with bolts reaching out and grabbing the vehicle?
Last edited by jaybird; November 22nd, 2008 at 00:41.
30 tons > 3000 lbs
30 tons = 60,000 lbs
whoops...my bad. writing in imperial, thinking in metric...