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You know, I've got a question for everyone to see if I get any support around this idea. This is a hypothetical situation. Now, I am not talking about the saving of Chaos tainted souls, most certainly not.
I am actually asking around Chaos saving servants of Chaos from the Imperium/Orks/Tyranids. Strange, ne? But even Chaos needs areas for resources, to draw in new recruits, and to of course worship the Chaos Gods. These planet's populations may not be overjoyed, oh no, but am I the only one thinks organized Chaos forces who have dominance, or invested state in a region would save the populace from say, a Tyranid splinter fleet, just for its logistical value, instead of just going "We're evil lets cut our losses mwehahahaha"?
So really it boils down to this question. Would Chaos offer salvation to other worshipers or servants of Chaos were they in need, in your opinion?
I know any reason they have to save them would be self interested, but there is the question.
And if you say yes or no, do go into why you think yes or no.
Edit: One quick thing, I actually had like five tabs open when I wrote this. I'll be asking to get this jumped over to Army Fluff. Sorry guys.
Last edited by Lanparth; March 2nd, 2009 at 05:44.
I went ahead and punted the thread over to Mr. Fluff section. However, we generally let army-oriented material slide by if it's posted in the respective forum (i.e., fluff, modeling, painting, etc...).
(punting fee = $1.00) :p
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I could see this happening in a couple different ways.
First, the most reasonable and probably most common, would be a Chaos commander deciding that the world was worth keeping. If Chaos controls a forge world, then the equipment it supplies might just be necessary.
Second, a follower of Khorne intercepts the distress signals and follows them to the bloodbath.
Third, a Sorcerer of Tzeentch is commanded to save the world, and does so without question. After all, who can comprehend the designs of Tzeentch?
There's an interesting angle in the Gaunt's Ghosts series similar to what you propose. Instead of just completely destroying every world they encountered, the chaos forces would sometimes occupy a planet in order to harvest its resources. (There was reference to a demon-slug thing that drank water and transported it to another place via the Warp.)
If Chaos forces were to "defend" a planet, it would certainly be only if they felt there was something worth keeping. They definitely wouldn't care very much for the folks there, and minimizing collateral damage would scarcely be a priority.
"It takes a vast amount of self control to be this dangerous."
---Ogvai Ogvai Helmshrot, Jarl of Tra, VI Legion Astartes
I'd say it depends. Personally, I paint a different picture of Chaos than most of the fluff out there (at least I think so), so my Word Bearers would do exactly what you're suggesting. They would definitely protect an Imperial world if the Dark Apostle believed it would benefit them more by the sheer amount of converts they would get.
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So you guys are saying that no Imperial citizens are ever "converted" to chaos?
I said the exact opposite, actually.
Member of the Fluffmasters Clan
No, plenty of Imperial citizens are "converted" to Chaos. The Word Bearers, as mentioned, are the most prominent force in this respect. Lyran, I believe that your Word Bearers actually follow the typical fluff for that Legion in that respect. They are known for their devotion to the four ruinous powers and often do convert people to Chaos.
Also, Imperial citizens sometimes convert themselves. These are the Chaos cults that spring up in the underground of Imperial worlds. Most commonly, these are Slaaneshi excess cults but they could be for any of the four gods.
And, of course, if a world is conquered by Chaos then all of the citizens are... "converted" one way or another.
My Dusk Phantoms are Renegade/Rogue who 'dabble' with Chaos, at the moment, so I can't answer this question fully from a completely Chaos point of view. Thankfully I don't need to, since Lyran had already given you his two cents.
However, I can say that if the Dusk Phantoms did 'conquer' or become the protectors of a specific system or two, and some planet in said system was under attack, they would immediately rush to their aid. I know that Lyran's Word Bearers would. I think most self-respective tyrants as a good majority of the Chaos Lords are, would indeed go and 'save' their populace if only to fulfil their duty.
What duty is that you say? Well the duty of a feudal lord. As in, the world gives that particular Chaos Lord troops, logistics, armament, and a place to crash in exchange, the Chaos Lords offers his 'protection'.
The main thing is, Chaos Marines even need new recruits, and the religiously devout need followers who aren't Chaos Marines, and thats before just the need for raw resources and facilities.
I brought this up just because much of the fluff seems silly to suspect that somehow Chaos marines would be a threat if they didn't hold at least some of these behaviors.
then again, given the Renegades Codex, some may argue spess pirates aren't exactly huge threats