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Is it a mandatory belief throughout the Imperium?
I know some marine chapters don't believe it, but on the whole is what the Ecclesiarchy preach considered canon by the Imperial Guard, Inquisition, High Lords and your average joe?
Secondly, if so, is the Emperor considered A god, or THE God? A subtle but important difference.
And leading on from that - what does the common Imperial Guard soldier know of Chaos? They must know of it on some level having fought daemons and chaos marines, but do they know of the chaos gods - in other words, what does the Imperium teach their basic soldiers about chaos?
If the Emperor is considered a God by the Imperium, would the disbelief of that be an executionable offence?
And lastly, would the worship of another God be allowed provided the individual still worshipped the Emperor, or is that a death sentence in waiting?
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Generally, Space Marines have a different faith from the 'rest' of the Imperium which worships the Emperor as THE God. There are probably exceptions to the rule but I wouldn't think anyone would speak openly of that for fear of a sudden, severe case of bullets to the face. Wether or not it actually -is- an executable offense probably varies how far away you are from a.) Terra b.) The Ecclysiarchy and c.) Commisars.
Same thing with "other" (Well, non-Chaotic) Gods. I read a Dark Millenium story where it was pretty much stated that the culture on a planet was allowed to worship the great river they lived beside (sort of like the Ganghes in India, or the Nile in Egypt) as long as they 'remembered' that it's a gift from the Emperor.
As far as I know, the Imperium only teaches their soldiers about Daemons and Heretics (Chaos Marines included), with their differencs and such, but the actual cause of the differences (That is, whichever God they belong to) is probably left unexplored. After all, the evil of Chaos is that it is Chaotic, without order. You can't have them being all orderly!
Your average Guardsman or Civilian knows nothing of Chaos.
The Emperor is THE God, and always has been, but local cults that do not diverge too much are tolerated. Like how Pagan holidays were replaced by Christian Holidays, back when the church was converting everyone (winter solstice becomes christmas, etc)
Any Guardsman who has contact with Daemons is executed for his safety and for the security of the Imperium.
Many Space Marines who fight such creatures are mind wiped and must be retrained (I find this a bit hard to believe myself)
Fighting traitors and Heretics would be a frequent occurrence but unless there was obvious daemonic activity, most of it would be explained away as xeno tech and enemy propaganda, mutation and such things.
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Local cults generally end up dedicating themselves to the Emperor. In Esienhorn its mentioned that a world worships the Sun as an aspect of the Emperor and this is rather common around the Galaxy.
I think thats how the Ommnissah belief held by the Ad Mech is tolerated. They can just say the Ommnissah is an aspect of the Emperor in humanity's machines (hence why alien tech is a blasphemy)
Space Marines strictly speaking are heretics from the Imperial Cult but
a) they are actually related to the Emperor,
b) they are very powerful and
c) they are fighting the same enemies that the rest of the Imperium is.
The common guarsmen would know of Chaos, they may know of Nurgle slaneesh Tzeentch and Khorne.
They probably wouldn't know that these gods can manifest their power as Daemons except through psychic power or posession.
They probably wouldn't know about Chaos Marines. IF they did find out about CSM then they wouldn't know their history.
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One of the Imperial laws that are enforced on all planets in the Imperium is the worship of the God-Emperor as Humanity's only and most-benevolent protector.
Only a very few, experienced Guardsmen know of the different Gods (less you know about it, harder it is to get corrupted) and even fewer know of Chaos Space Marines (remember that the Space Marines are almost worshipped as Gods themselves and the notion of there being traitorous Marines is not a good thing for their image as Humanity's perfect protectors).
Most who do are either dead, dying, brain-washed or under threat of execution forbidden to tell anyone about it.
When larger daemonic incursions occur, the people affected by it can be lobotomised and relocated "for their own safety" (kinda what happened after the First War for Armageddon).
He may be THE GOD but there is still the machine god.The machine god must be fairly important beacause he is the reason for the rejection of tau from the empire. In their codex it says that they could of joined the empire bar the fact they did not bless their tecnology in the name of the machine god. But yes the emperor is THE GOD and the machine god is just a minor god.
IIRC, the AdMech "officially" consider the Machine-God an aspect of the Emperor. But that's what they tell the Ecclesiarchy. What they really believe is probably a bit more heretical.
Last edited by Da Mighty Camel; March 3rd, 2009 at 22:57.
Well that is the Emperor's fault (that's right, I said it.) He convinced the Ad Mech he was Ommnisiah so they'd help him in the great crusade. Man, when the Void Dragon wakes there is going to be an awful lot of explaining to do.
As for the Cult of the Emperor, Space Marines in general have probably the closest thing to the truth about the Emperor being human and never a god. They see him as the perfect human, yes he is the savious of man, but he was just that, a man. However, The Word Bearers Primarch, Lorgar can be blamed for starting the first cult of the Emperor. He would build these huge cathedrals to the Emperor and it made the Emperor angry. One of his main reasons for the Great Crusade aside from uniting mankind was to Free us from the ignorance of religion. (Says so in Horus rising if you want to look.) Being worshiped as a god was the last thing the Emperor wanted, here you have Lorgar doing this. Plus he wasn't doing what he should have been doing, killing things and conquering planets. The Emperor repremanded Lorgar and this is what is suppose to have sent him to chaos. The Chaos gods came to Lorgar and said that they would welcome his worship.
Lorgar: The Emperor doesn't appreciate my worship of him. I only meant the best of intentions.
Chaos: Worship us, we want you to.
Chaos: Oh, bring some friends along, the more the merrier.
And that lead to Lorgar sending one of his chaplains to Davin when Horus was recovering. This in turn leads to Horus getting corrupted and the Heresy starting. So one could see that if a Marine starts venerating the Emperor as a god. The eccleiarchy may like it, but the other chapters will see that as blasphemy.
Last edited by Hashulaman; March 5th, 2009 at 17:45.
If a Million Guardsmen die, that's a statistic. If one marine dies, that's a tragedy.
It also depends on where you live. I'm pretty sure that the Cadians know about Chaos and Chaos Space Marines, cause they are under attack by them so much (remember, even when there is no Black Crusade Chaos forces keep trying to slip through the gate). Maybe not the specialities or history, but they must have something more than just basic knowledge.