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I hope this is the right forum, but how do the Ultramarines select their chapter Master? I read on the lexicon that Sicarius (sp) was considered Calgar's 'heir', making me wonder if the old CM picks the new one or something (He writes up a will kind of thing and in case of death, it is read).
So how DO they pick their cm or is it spoken anywhere? Since my marines are UM succcessors and emulate the Ultras in many ways, they would probably pick something about the same.
Forgive me for bumping, but I guess nobody knows huh? Ah well, I will not bump this again though but if anyone DOES know do feel free to post
There is no 'Codex' answer to your question, so each Chapter is free to choose its leader as it sees fit. Probable answers are heir designation (Calgar choosing Sicarius), promotion (leader of First Company automatically becomes CM when the previous one dies) or a vote by the Chaplains. Bear in mind that, unlike traditional armies, Space Marines tend to choose their commanders based on combat prowess rather than actual leadership and 'big picture' thinking. They have both, of course, but Marines don't have the 'rear echelon' of bureaucratic and logistics personnel that most other fighting forces do--being led by the best fighters in the Chapter is the best way to ensure one's chain of command remains intact when one spend every day on a battlefield.
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It would be interesting to know what Guilliman would have thought about choosing a new Chapter Master.
The Emperor intended the Primarchs to be the only chapter Masters.
When that failed Roboute Guilliman set about writing the Codex Astartes in an effort to codify chapter practices and also limit the power of marine chapters.
There is an argument to say that with this ethos in mind Chapters shouldn't choose their own Chapter Masters. The High Lords of Terra should review each chapter and choose a new Master from their ranks to ensure the Masters are always the most loyal from amongst the candidates.
Of course this doesn't happen but it is an interesting point to think about.
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I would be surprised if this wasn't covered in the codex astartes somewhere, it's just that GW have never published what that bit says. Like Intrepid said, the most likely options are probably the current chapter master selecting who his replacement will be, or alternatively certain senior members of the chapter voting on it (Kind of like selecting the pope!).
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Hmm. ok I suppose. I figured nothing was written yet but since the UMs are heavily focused on in the Codex I thought it may have been mentioned in fluff or a previous edition of the codex.
Thank you then gents!
Last edited by Skarsgard; June 13th, 2009 at 08:38. Reason: sanitised for pg13
In the Space Wolf series, specific leadership seems to come down to political clout within the chapter. No set-in-stone method is mentioned, or implied. That IS the space wolves, however.
Given that most Space Marine chapters aren't any larger than 1000, I would imagine that it would be largely opinion based. They're not really big enough to sustain much of a beurocratic method.