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Not a clue where to put this so thought here as good a place as any.
In my quest to come up with City's of Death terrain I came up of with the idea of a crashed ship. Not some piddly lander but a star ship. Yes yes, far too big to put on a board but it is the nose of the ship that I'm interested in, that wedge that sits at the fore of every imperial ship.
I'm not going for battleship size but a sword fright is what I had in mind. I just want to know if the dimensions are workable, any sizes would be appreciated. If a fright is 300m long and several stories high then all's good as a chunk of the nose cone could be modeled into a usable piece of terrain. Here hoping
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The problem is that NOTHING in gothic is actually to scale, because the actual ships are so small and so far apart that the models are just visual representations of a minute point in space. However, antiship torpedoes are over approximately 200ft long. A cobra-class escort is equipped to fire two of these from it's prow, and the ports for the torp-tubes fit quite tightly in the prow. A sword class prow is slightly larger, but only just. That should give you a basic estimate of height and width etc.
Just remember that a capital ship is KILOMETERS long. These things are really quite large.
If I remember correctly, a Sword is about to be around 1.8km long. And that's the larger of the escort-classes. Cruisers clock in around 4-7km.
So yeah, huge stuff.
One thing that people tend to forget is that the fighters/bombers the Imperial navy deploys for air-to-air or air-to-surface missions isn't the same as those in space operations. Because there is no such thing as friction or aerodynamics in space, the ships can be all strange sizes and masses and still count as fighters or other strike craft. The Imperial bombers (Starhawks?) are supposed to be a few hundred metres in size, having a crew of a dozen, sleeping facilities, medic bay etc.
Yeah, space-things in 40k are big.
In v5, terrain serves to block LoS and/or provide tactical options.
Either way, it has to stay low enough to make model movement comfortable.
That's why gaming - rather than diorama - terrain generally stays under 18in tall.
Being forced to circle the board in order to play gets tiresome pretty quickly.The improbable "ramming" prow with wide, curved surfaces?it is the nose of the ship that I'm interested in, that wedge that sits at the fore
Good luck with that. It's been done - for a diorama - and it ain't easy.The scale is unworkable. A model that size would *be* the board, not decorate one:I just want to know if the dimensions are workable
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Even the shrunk-down diorama prow I saw would have made gaming awkward -
You couldn't balance models on it, and it wasted half the real estate.
Consider something more easily managed.
BTW, Terrain threads are in the "Scenery" section.
Last edited by Playa; June 12th, 2009 at 19:59. Reason: None.
Would Jeff Russell's starship dimensions website help? Never knew the Cobra Class Destroyer is about the same size as an imperial star destroyer.
go to the -2x page and you can drag the picture of an american football field up to the cobra class escort and compare the size.
Ah, that site is still going I see. Been a while since I checked it out.
You can see John Reed's, aka Magelord, Retribution class battleship next to his Cobra on -10x as well. He's a fantastic artist.
Yeah, the drawing is very impressive! I hoped forom the pseudonym you gave him that he was a LO mambe so I would rep him, but I can't find him
As for the model, I'm not sure how big a 40k table is supposed to represent, but if we compare the nose of John/Jeff's escort with Jeff's scale american football field you see that if a table is only one or two american football fields long you'll only get up to about 1/2 the prow on, it would take up the whole table, be as tall as the table is long, and pretty much only be a big white lump.
What about an escort that crashed thousands of years ago and is almost buried now, with just the front gun tower sticking out of the ground?
But yes. On topic.
As you can see, they are quite huge. You could have an entire battle be fought over the prow turret and nothing else...