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i'm just curious about this as i've been toying with the idea for a while
the emperor is physically pretty much dead, although his mind is still alive. to this extent it is concievable that he has a presence in the warp no?
i've been toying with the idea that the emperor is actively fighting the gods of chaos within the warp itself, his own powers bolstered to match that of at least an individual god due to the billions of mankind worshipping him.
I just think it would be really cool if he is personally fighting chaos at the forefront, possible even infiltrating the garden of nurgle to free isha to fight against chaos? i believe it was in the chaos demons codex it says that isha is a prisoner of nurgle.
anyone see any flaws in what i've said? particularly anything about the last part
I'm no fluff expert, but I'm fairly sure none of that would happen. The Emperor's presence in the Warp doesn't extend past the Astronomican, he doesn't like aliens much less alien deities, he doesn't work along the same lines as the Chaos Gods and so doesn't get stronger just because people believe in him, and he's also wasting away.
Yeah. The general rule of thumb when you're writing up fluff for the 40k-verse is to steer clear of making stuff up about characters that are central to the universe, like making the Emperor some sort of unreality-based superhero set on rescuing the pwiddy space elf goddess from the smelly fat man.
There are many ideas on the subject, including one, its been in some codex/rulebooks, that is very similar. It states that the Emperor guides humanity through the Tarot, guides the Astronomicon, and prevents Chaos from spilling over into our universe on a galactic scale.
As for Isha, no, I don`t think so. That`s just an Eldar legend, so it may not be true. And if the Emperor were a warp presence, he couldn`t exactly Sam Fisher his way into a Chaos God`s realm, even if he wanted to, for two reasons: first, anyone as powerful as the Emperor couldn`t hide himself from the Gods, and second, the God`s realms are part of the Gods themselves. That`s why they grow and contract as the God`s power does. So sneaking into Nurgle's garden would be like trying to sneak into someone's belly button.
Based on various sources (particular older sources such as realm of Chaos) the Emperor does work along the same lines as the Chaos gods, as all souls do.
The Chaos gods are simply billions and billions of souls which share similar experiences (warriors for example will congregate towards Khorne).
If that belief is centered elsewhere then that particular area of the warp will grow in stature. In this case the Emperor's soul. However bare in mind that the Emperor could be called the 'god of Xenophobia'.
There is no way he would help free Isha.
In addition Marius the Posessed had it right when he said the Gardens of Nurgle are part of Nurgle himself. The Emperor would have a hard time infilitrating them.
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Here's how I understand it: Khorne and his firends are conglomerations of souls that have gained sentience as an autonomous entity, and grow in power by feeding off the negative emotions of living things. They're Warp-spawned entities, but are able to interact with the physical realm to a limited extent. The Emperor is a material-based reincarnation of all the dead Shamans who is sentient, but incapacitated. He can't really interact with the world at all, on any level, and because he isn't a warp-based entity he can't feed off the Immaterium in the same way that The Khorne Krew do, which is why he needs the psykers. He's basically just a very old man on a chair whose will is so strong that it can be perceived in the Warp as the Astronomican; beyond that, he's useless. Although according to The Inquisition War he talks in capital letters and sends random Inquisitors on quests to steal the Book Of Rhandy Dandruff.
The millions of psykers are fed to him to sustain his life force in the same way that daemons also need souls to stay in the material world.
The warp isn't goverened by scientific rules set in stone and the Emperor is a rather unique case. He is essentially a mortal slowly (over the course of 10,000 years) ascending to godhood.
I think we can all agree that the Emperor probably talks in CAPITAL LETTERS.
Also, I thought the Golden Throne was what kept the Emperor alive, and the psykers joined the Choir to make sure the Astronomican remained strong?I bet he also rides a Harley, wears leathers, and dons his sunglasses slowly in a dramatic Horatio Kane-like fashion.I think we can all agree that the Emperor probably talks in CAPITAL LETTERS.
"There is no such thing... as a former Emperor-man. YEAAAAAAAAH!"
I think the worry is that the Imperium don't know what will happen exactly when he dies.
Indicentally he probably has a side car for his favourite Primarch for any given point in time.
"Alright Roboute, let's take a ride to GW HQ and shout at the designers until they update your boys' rules..."Indicentally he probably has a side car for his favourite Primarch for any given point in time.
"Can I come too?"
"Go away Ferrus, nobody likes you."
A lot fot he stuff about the Emperors soul i am using from older fluff pieces anyway, but I will re read the stuff about the Golden Throne.
"Ferrus Mannus? I thought you were dead!"
"HE'LL ALWAYS BE DEAD TO ME!"
Zooms off leaving Ferrus to eat the dust
(wow where did that come from?)