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According to the fluff, Bjorn the Fell-Handed of the Space Wolves is the oldest dreadnought and is almost as old as the Primarchs. (al la 2nd ed. SW dex) So except for him, the Emperor and the Primarchs (both Chaos and Loyalist), what are the next oldest Imperium residents. Is there another Dreadnought floating around with enough history? Maybe an AdMech guy?
I can't say so with certainty, but my money would be on a high ranking Magos of the Mechanicum. Of course, one could argue against them still being considered human...though I suppose if we're considering Dreadnoughts and Primarchs it counts.
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The Adeptus Mechanicus can make themselves immortal.. It's the end of a long process of slowly stripping out biological components to replace them with mechanical ones until you're left with what is, basically, a bionic brain in a jar. Living forever in this state is pretty wierd though and those subjected to it tend to become quirky after a while.. they're kept around because they're incredibly knowledgable and wise when it comes to scientific and technical matters, but actually getting them to remember the right stuff or provide anything useful is difficult.
Whether you consider that human is another matter, but those guys were once human.
Isn't one of the Blood Angel captains or leaders older than the Heresy? Dante maybe?
There are evil-doers to consider. Chaos marines have survived since the Heresy. They aren't entirely human anymore but with mutaion all over the Imperium they may not stand out a non-human but as evil inhuman types. There are also Genestealer cults. The Hybrids can live for a very long time, maybe thousands of years. However they are loathesome alien crossbreeds if they live that long and so may not be considered human.
There are also people in stasis, like the Ultramarines Primarch. These types aren't aging or dying. The Imperium is also the kind of place that will have mad scientists who concocted elixirs of life thousands of years ago and now lurk in some corner being mad and making more elixir of life.
Last edited by Leech; July 9th, 2009 at 23:45.
Basically there are a few ways of looking at this.
1) Unaugamented Human with no Re-Juve drugs.,
Probably some guy living on one of the rare paradise worlds in the Imperium to 130.
2) Augamented human with re-juve drugs.
Some govenor or Adept that has managed to keep out of trouble and is about 390-400 years old.
3) Space Marine
4) Mechanical Human i.e Adeptus Mechanicus
There will be Magos who are are basically bionic brains in the body of a cyborg and it wouldnot surprise me if some go back pre-Heresy. I mean the Adeptus Mechanicus is old . If someone got hold of Dark Age of Technology tech and found a good place on Mars to hold up and somehow avoided the Heresy they might be 20,000 years old!
5) Mechanical space marine i.e Dreadnought
Probably Bjorn but conceivably there are other dreadnoughts such as an Ultramarine dreadnought. Dreadnoughts themsevles are millenia old so its just how long their occupant can last,
6) Warp stranded humans.
In theory a ship could get lost in the warp in the year 15000AD ( I thin kthey had just discovered warp travel then) and come out in the year 40,000AD and technically be the oldest human.
7) Warp Stranded Space Marines
For example the Fallen marines are all 10,000 years old.
Last edited by Visitor Q; July 12th, 2009 at 23:42.
There might be some other guy in Dread armour who has seen a few thousands of years pass, but the fluff for Björn pretty much states that apart from the Emperor and the Primarchs, he is the oldest living "human".
Logan Grimnar is pretty damn old as well, having been the Wolves' current Great Wolf for the past 6-700 years.
There's that Inquisitor Lord in the Eisenhorn trilogy as well, who everyone expects to die at any moment but just continues to live on. I can't remember how old he was though.
This page on TvTropes sums it up pretty well.
Who Wants To Live Forever - Television Tropes & Idioms
Abbadon is amongst the oldest having fought during the heresy and all.
I think Lysander is quite old he was trapped in the warp for many years.
While on the subject how old is commissar Yarrick? I think he is one of the oldest regular guardsmen ever. But it would be fun to know exactly how old he is.