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This is a post i made from another forum. that aparently doesn't do IG
Ok, Before I begin let me say a few things.
From the last time I was on this forum, I have had a child(now 8 month's old), Gotten a history doctrine, and now on the way to becoming a history teacher.
I AM German, but personally do not support the meaning or term's that this army represent's/did almost 70 year's ago.
I want to know the communites personal outlook on a National Socialist Imperial Guard. I know some of you would smash the model's on sight.
but let's put that aside for a moment.
The blatent fact is-that the imperial guard littlery resemble them. From unit look's to the very structure on how thing's are runned/administrated.
Even the tactic's are very close to blitzkreig. Now i'm not saying i'm going to go to the point of making a Adolf model/ or even swastika's.
But the general paint job of the uniform down to the red band/white circle, probably with ether a iron cross, or the black sun.
The major thing's im staying away from are the "Symbol", The-"stash", and the other name.
Doesn't bother me more than that, tho some might feel the "a bit too obvious" reference from the arm band is a "taunt", altering that armband idea a bit might be a prudent move against the less... tolerant people. (I mean, you don't have to be agreeing with their mentallity to appreciate the work they put into the Panzers.)
Note that the Death Korps of Krieg share a very similar "feel", in my opinion.
Blitzkrieg/Lightning War is a rather common tactic in wargames (be they tabletops or other).
But yes, definitely stay the hell away from the symbol.
Personally, I have even thought of doing this myself. I decided on a micro-army Confederate-Flag Orks instead as a form of attention-whoring for haters. In a sense, I don't see any benefit to doing it other than a smirk. At worst, and on the down side, a closed-minded person may pretend to be offended by your army's theme.
The Nazi references in Imperial Guard fluff are obvious and overstated. It is not too novel of a concept, but as long as you like the fluff, there is no reason why not. If you're going for the Carlos Mencia-caliber shock factor, you can't get any more unoriginal than Nazi Imperial Guard.
The Charlie Chaplin mustache would just be unnecessarily milking the source material and overall stereotyping an entire group of people based on their leader. Swastikas would also seem out-of-place and too comedic to be believable.
I guess the main thing would be why?
I mean the Imperial Guard already are fairly brutal and they draw on a lot of different cultures so why that one in particular
Space Zombie Nazi Guard, that has a certain B movie feel that could be entertaining.
Straight out Nazi's....not so much.
Bare in mind this is the fluff forum rather than the modelling forum.
So i guess the question is what in their fluff are you going to assiciate with the Nazis and what are you going to take out?
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I'm inclined to agree with visitor Q. Why? The Imperium is a million times more intolerant and totalitarian than the Nazi party ever was. And if you're not doing it from a dark, atmospheric point of view, that leaves only the ideology asociated with the Nazi's. Frankly, I think it's unnecessary and slightly in bad taste - particularly in Germany.
do it, mix up the colors a little maybe or something, but if people are offended by it so what, just say your make fun or some thing dumb like that and tell them to piss off.
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The Iron cross would work for Traitor Guard...
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In the end, there are a lot of people prejudiced against anything related to Nazis, so it may be best not do do this.
I'm in favor of the idea, myself. The Imperium is equally fascist, so there's no (in-game) fluff problem. There are plenty of similarly nasty races in the fantasy genre, in fact my WHFB army is Dark Elves. Indiana Jones gets to fight Nazis...why can't my vigilante Night Lord terrorists from Hell Itself have a chance?
If you want a way to hedge your bets, paint your IG in standard WW2 German colors but only put the symbols on a few models that you can swap out if your opponent complains.
"My tanks have names, my men have numbers." -Col. Edmund Grahvess, 23rd Kronecker Prison Guard
Having straight-up Nazi imperial Guard, instead of the normal Nazi-esque Imperial Guard, can get you arrested in a number of countries, for the Nazi symbol, including Germany.
You can build them and paint them like WWII Germany, and then invent your own symbol. Assuming that you or someone who lives somewhere relatively near you has some sort of artistic skill.
But either way, it's in a lot better taste than using the Nazi symbol.
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