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there is an artificial world mentioned as a guard recruitment area--- I would like the forums help in fleshing out this barely mentioned fluff
so any who are interested please answer these 3 questions
1. What Xeno constructed DreadHaven originally ? ( dreadhaven is located as far as any world away from terra, perhaps outside or on the edge of astronomicon, look at map im not sure of section)
2. What are the conditions on Dreadhaven? ( how does the location impact the guard drawn from its living spaces
3. what sort of group controls dreadhaven? Adeptus mechanicus? astartes of DIY chapter ? Inquisition? powerful independent society ( a vassal of the imperium of course)?
thanks for your help, I feel after these are answered we could move on to symbols etc after we find the best ideas
Hmm, with a name like Dreadhaven it certainly sounds like an Inquisition Interregation world. A planet consisting of vast gothic vaults and chambers, miles and miles of cadle-lit corridors echoing with the screams and ravings of prisoners awaiting to be interegated by the Inquisition for various crimes. The further below the surface you go the worse the crimes of the prisoners.
The surface would be a dead rock, completely devoid of any sign of life so as to not draw any attention. Being placed at the very edge of the galaxy means it is away from prying eyes. A whole continet is reserved for the interegation of psychers and is one of the main ports of the Black Ships. Thanks to the work of the now-renegade Inquisitor Eisenhorn this facility is able to support a large staff of Untouchables or Paraiahs in order to prevent psychic attacks by the inmates.
Any units drawn from the world would either be reformed heretics (if such a thing exists...) who must now repay their debt to the Imperium (so conscripts) or elite Inquisition trained troops (storm troopers and armoured fist squads). The regiments would have many commisars and priests to make sure the reformed are really on the straight-and-narrow.
Hows that for a bit of fluff for your unknown planet?
I like the idea of a blackship hub--- and general inquisition base
but the fluff does clearly state that the planet is artificial-- -and I only know of eldar atm who can create world sized ships; I suppose necrons or old ones could too; or it could be a derelict collection of all kinds ( a super spacehulk)
the total domination of the various ordos in this location would definitely lend itself to very dedicated IST and the guard drawn from here
If its artifical, it could be very mush the same as the Blackstone Fortresses. Build by the Eldar for a long-forgotton purpose and then taken over by the Imperium. Over the millenia of Imperial occupation they have cahnged it to look more like and Imperial city rather than an Eldar built world. This could also help explain the Inquisition's interest in the planet and so a large faction of Ordo Xenos Inquisitors inhabit the planet.
As for the external appearance. The Eldar originally inhabited both the surface and the inside of the planet but a massive meteor storm hit and made the surface unlivable: hence the outward appearence of being a dead-world.
your fluff-fu is strong monkey.
love the ideas
on imperial worlds do they usually directly control a population ? or do they allow autonomy and vassalship?
perhaps a device here can "desoul" someone or remove the warp signature --on the blanks angle
what sorts of people would this world produce? physically( akin to a hive I would think considering the inside conditions)
and what would the regimental symbol of the dreadhaven PDF and IG forces be?
perhaps a black rock in a white circle? ( on the blackstone angle) or a green circle in a red diamond with a white I ?? this is really helping me come up with a paint scheme for these overpopulous little bastards.
Normally a planetary govonor is put into place wno directly controls the planet on behalf of the Imperium in whatever way they see fit. As long as the Imperium gets its taxes and teiths of produce and Gaurd Regiments if required it is happy to let the world be run by whatever means.
In the case of this world tho I would say it would be under the direct control on the Inquisition and mainly in the control of one particular Ordos. Since it is a xeno-tech world it would be safe to say it is under the control of the Ordo Xenos and he other factions are allowed to use the world. Maybe even have each Ordo controlling one continent or a third of the planet. No planetary govonor would be instated as so the controlling power would fall to a senior Inquisitor Lord who has ceased active duty.
In terms of a native populace I would say it would be very much like a hive world. There would be almost no crime to speak of due to such a massive Inquisition pressence but there still would be competeing factions within the Ordos (such as Thorians, Davinites and so on) and maybe their personal wars would spill out into the general populace. I would say a pale cast to the skin and dark eyes would be the only major difference in the inhabitants with any major deviation being weeded out by Ordo Hereticus personel systematically. The overall quality of life would be high for the majority as the Inquisition is very wealthy and can call apon almost anything the Imperium has to offer.
I would think there would be a vary strong standing army posted to the planet as well as a constant flow of both Sororitas and Astartes comming and going. It would be used as a secondary training ground for the Grey Knights as well as a lauching post for Deathwatch teams operating within the segmentum. The regular troops stationed and trained there would be well trained and very well equipted. A regimental symbol would have to incorporate a stylised I as well as possibly a skull (both of which beeing major icons of the Inquisition) and colours would depend greatly on which Ordos the regiment was stationed to, be it Malleus, Hereticus or Xenos.
I hope to bring this to life in my painting thread !
I have a nice stock of good models for such a force
yeah I suppose the planet would necessarily be under total domination of inquisition, due to its nature...
well I am going to try to do the warhammer style gothic "dreadhaven" on a flag somewhere; perhaps the I on a skull on a black mountain, in a circle !; the shadow of the world itself would be incorporated into the regimental flag
would a closed circuit local webway be pushing the fluff too far? ( basically a world local teleportation system-- allowing for the endless shuffling of prisoners and marked psysacrifices and trainees, the loading and unloading of the constant flow of blackships)??
Hmm, if anyone is gonna have access to something like that it'd be the Inquisition but I still think its stretching it a bit. Teleportation is pretty much limited to the Astartes and the Mechanicus and even then is not widly available or used within these groups.
The Imperium as a whole seems to be rather inefficiant in its procedeurs and response times and also has a very archaic feel to everything about it. So to refelect this I would say there would instead be a massive system of trains and maglevs running throught the planet and the various hidden starports. Any extra-planetary transports would be in the same style as the Black Ships. ie psychic shielding, black hulls to blend with space and avoid detection, no running lights or open windows/ports and I would say have automatic pilots and strong fail-safes built in.
When thinking about fluff for 40k you have to remember that even tho its very far in the future and there are many technological advances there is very little "new" technology for the time. What there is is hundreds (if not thousands) of years old and based of incomplete and half forgotton templates. The thechnology is not understood but is seen as something half devine. The 40k universe is very much a "used future", it is not perfect or utopian by any means and is not organised or controled adiquetly. The use of technlogy is controlled by a group of quasi-priests cum technicians who vehemently adhere to out of date ideas and archaic lore when using anything mechanical. A vast teleportaion network is well beyond the Imperium's ability to create let alone maintain.
Aside from all that, its a very Gothic future and teleportaion and such doesn't suit the bleakness of the 41st Millenium. For these kinds of visual ideas take a look at stuff like Blade Runner, Alien, Immortal (a french film), Dark City, and even stuff like Children of Men, Metropolis, and (yes) the original Star Wars
yeah just tossing around ideas --- on a side note the teleport tech the astartes use are within the terminator suits right?
yeah lots of trains LOTS OF TRAINS OMG( ala half life 2)
on the galactic map, where is the edge of the emperors mind ?-- Is it the edge of the circle?
the only reason I even mentioned a local webway is to better connect the artifact to its xenos creators; eldar does make the most sense because the universe is littered with artefacts from the empire they formed.
the location is about as far away as you can get from the eye of terror as well; which would make extra sense for the storage of psychs being prepared for the golden throne, or being trained.
did you see the picture of the cover of the new storm troopers novel? --- Im thinking fanatics for seargeants is a nice touch ( converted from empire flagellants)
Last edited by Concilliator; August 25th, 2009 at 16:48.
Havnt seen that but it could work.
There is a strong chance there would be a webway within Dreadhaven but the Eldar are never ones to leave a webway open for just anyone to walk into. In all likyhood it would have been blocked up or hidden. Then theres the matter of the Imperials being able to a) find it and b) even be able to use it. Maybe Dreadhaven was abandoned by the Eldar because of a fault in the Webway that couldn't be repaired and so chaos was leaking into it and Dreadhaven.
If this were the case then this is a great set-up for a major event. With all the psychic energy being used and brought to Dreadhaven by the Inquisition the already weak Webwa could be near shattering. If this does happen then a warp portal would open up in Dreadhaven and unleash a Daemon army onto the world.
That would be a great event to hint at in fluff and leave open. There could even be factions within the Inquisition who know about it and feel they can control it and are activly seeking to open the warp rift. So many possibilities.
Is the opposite side of the Imperium to the Eye the Ghoul Stars? I havn't looked at the map in the rule book or the Marine Codex to check yet. If it is in the Ghoul Stars then that opens up even more options and mysteries. The Ghoul Stars are supposedly haunted and whatever it is out there could be a reason for the Eldar vacating Dreadhaven and now the Imperium is unsuspecting of what is watching and waiting for then within these dead stars.