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For quite a while now I've been trying to find a use for the fantastic Perry Miniatures' Napoleonics range. Some of you might remember Michael and Alan Perry as two prolific GW sculptors from the past. Nobody I know plays any historical wargames, so I'm somewhat considering using figures like these - with a good amount of conversion work - as an Imperial Guard regiment.
It would be heavily influenced by one of my favourite TV series, Sharpe. I'm using you guys as a sounding board to explore how feasible something like this is from a fluff standpoint.
The regiment in question would come from an Imperial world where technology isn't as advanced as somewhere like Cadia. It would be a world located in a relatively isolated part of the Imperium, away from major trade routes or commercial hubs, so would have regular but infrequent contact with other Imperial forces.
A long and proud military tradition is present, with new conscripted regimental foundings occurring every 15 years. It is common for at least one, if not all, men in a household to have served their time in the Imperial Guard. As an officially sanctioned, though remote, regiment they would have access to the Ministorum's resources whilst keeping many of their own traditional equipment.
For example, whilst heavy weaponry such as Autocannons, Heavy Bolters and Grenade Launchers is operated in great numbers, the infantry are known to prefer simple and reliable gunpowder rifles instead of Lasguns. The solid, brutal impact of bullets serve to counter-balance the rate of fire of laser-based weapons. Rare and unstable plasma weaponry is frowned upon and little understood, but melta guns and flamers have been used to some success. Limited supplies of Chimeras and artillery tanks are provided during each founding and these are meticulously maintained and repaired, usually reserved for officers and distinguished platoon commanders to field.
Inquisitorial representatives have been present on the world for as long as anyone can remember, along with a small delegation from the Ecclesiarchy, to maintain and uphold the Imperial Creed. It is considered necessary, even for such a remote world, to ensure it and it's comparitively young armed forces do not stray from the Imperium.
The army would be characterised by lots of large infantry platoons, heavy weapon squads and a few artillery tanks. It would embody the 'gunline' style of warfare so common at the start of the 19th Century. Infiltrators and scouting veterans would support along with massed Rough Rider charges. There would be a few Chimeras, used by the CCS and PCS as command posts.
All the infantry would have bits such as IG ammo pouches, grenades, imperial eagles and such to tie them in with the game a little more. Would you play against an army like this? Or would you think it too out of place to work?
Well of course, go for it! I mean, if GW can produce Praetorians...
As for the fluff, yeah it works. Using a sci-fi counterpart culture IN SPACE is nothing new for 40k.
1. You rarely quit serving the Guard. Once recruited and trained, you'll be shipped off to some distant place and it's extremely unlikely that you will ever see your home again. If you get the opportunity to quit the Guard, it will be after many years of service and you will most likely be offered to settle a new world.
Perhaps it could be a tradition to serve in the PDF instead?
2. Simple and reliable gunpowder weapons you say... well the thing is that the lasgun is the simplest and most reliable gun ever produced. It's also a lot more powerful than a projectile weapon. While it is not impossible that some Guard regiments use autoguns instead of lasguns, it is uncommon. Often it's because they don't have the technology to produce lasguns in large numbers.
Look at the Vostroyan lasguns. They look a lot like sci-fi style muskets, so there's no reason really why your world wouldn't use them.
Other than that, go for it!
flintlock Bakers). On a remote, low tech world with relatively little Imperial presence beside a few token personnell, it would be far easier to produce such rifles than Lasguns.
Sounds great! Those models look very good too. I imagine you'll be using basilisks? When I was reading your idea, I was picturing heavily converted tanks with a 'steam-punk' look. Extra wires and engine bits hanging around as though they don't have the ability to compact their weapon technology.
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Lasguns aren't even hard to make. They're stamped out in their millions by big forge worlds, shipped bloody everywhere, last essentially forever and recharge when put in sunlight. All you'd need is enough lasguns to equip a PDF once over and you're set for the next thousand years. They don't need to be made on-world and very rarely are, so all you're worrying about is regular shipments, and "regular" only need mean "every few centuries."
Compare that to a bloody flintlock which won't fire unless you clean it regularly and there's no contest. Flintlocks stop working when they get wet, for Christ's sake. It's alright to have flintlock-like lasguns for flavoursome purposes, but actually having flintlocks is just terminally silly. They'd get trounced by basically every enemy they met.
The Napoleonic idea is generally excellent, by the way. It's just the flintlocks that jumped out at me.
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Thanks for your input poodle. I would just like to add, I'm well aware that Lasguns trump flintlock rifles in every sense. In fact, it would make far more sense to actually have Lasguns. But tearing this thread away from fluff slightly, there is the modelling restriction. I am simply not going to be converting a hundred rifles into Lasguns. So what is the answer?
Explain it by saying that they produce their own brand of lasguns styled as muskets. Success!
Exactly. Lasguns don't all look the same, and as Da Mighty Camel said, Vostroyan lasguns look like muskets, so just say your flintlocks are lasguns.
Last edited by Cossack; June 9th, 2010 at 18:20.
That is one green unit of Wraithguard. Wannabe Orks?