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Chaos Space Marines.
The Imperial Guard.
The Tau Empire.
Other (please specify in your post).
Who is most Good?
We have heard plenty of how many armies think they are more evil than everybody else. However we haven't heard who is the most good?
To define good may be harder than evil. What is good in an age with so many pointless relative ideas? Is good just what suits us, what we prefer or something else?
Purity of thought such as sticking to you guns and not being a hypocrite even if you are a psychopath. Or is good something more simple such as being nice to people and defending them from baddies (whoever the baddies are)?
If you wish pick who you think is the most good from the armies above.
Edit: Orks and Necrons ended up on the same line for voting by accident. If you vote for them say so in your post.
Last edited by Leech; June 6th, 2010 at 11:00. Reason: Messed up Orks and Necrons.
I'll say it now.. This thread is going to go really bad really fast.
Relativism isn't pointless, it's a logical response to the pointlessness of moral discussion.
Logically, the only environment in which 'good' is not relative is if there is one supreme power to enforce its definition of 'good' onto everything else, in other words if there's a monotheistic God. There is no such thing in 40k, so there is no absolute 'good', the end. Now prepare for a meaningless cock-fight which will run on for page after page of people saying 'aliens r gud!', 'no, aliens r bad!'.
Its simple. they are the most honest, most straight forward race in all of 40k. They dont come to you with lies and promises like Chaos and Eldar. They dont wish to eradicate all life like the Necrons. They dont treat you as worthless fodder and make you believe your serving a higher purpose like the Imperium. They dont treat you as food like the Tyranids. Your not a slave to be tortured for their amusement like the Dark Eldar.
They love to fight. Fighting is why they exist. They share their love with anyone who wants it. What is the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. How many races besides the Orks can honestly they treat others how they want to be treated?
Green iz da' BEST!
Orkz is made fer' two fings! Fightin', and winnin'!
I'd have to say the Tau Empire as they're only really looking for friends and peace....and a world not to be devoured by Nids.
World Eaters: W-47 D-10 L-9
Necrons: W-19 D-3 L-2
Protectorate of Menoth: W-36 D-0 L-7
The Tau are devious scum bags, they offer water in one hand yet hold a knife in the other, (ohhh here we go, its starting).
PROUD TO BE IN THE BRITISH ARMY.
~~ Surrender and serve me in life, or die and slave for me in death~~
The heart of the matter is, as Leech stated in the first post, "what is good?" How do you define such a concept? "Evil" is a much easier term to define, especially in the world of Warhammer 40k. Does "good" mean "honest" or "straightforward?" Or does it mean something else, such as purity, agenda, goals, etc.?
I would argue that the Tau Empire is the closest to "good" you can get on such a general basis as "which army?" As a whole, they tend to treat their enemies more fairly, their conquered peoples well, and tend not to prefer going to war if they can avoid it. Are they basically a dictatorship? Yes. Do they give a do-or-die choice to conquered worlds? Sure. But the way they go about it is much more traditionally "good" than any other army in the game.
I feel like armies can be decidedly good, especially on an individual scale; a DIY chapter of Space Marines could be more good than the Tau Empire in general, or an Imperial Guard platoon, or an Eldar Craftworld, etc. but on the most general scale of "what army?" I feel like the Tau Empire would take the cake.
No such thing as a "good" army, only "most good compared to the others."
I vote Imperial Guard. They don't have anything to prove; they're simply trying to hold back the monsters and daemons from eating their home planets despite being horribly outmatched (and sometimes badly led).
"My tanks have names, my men have numbers." -Col. Edmund Grahvess, 23rd Kronecker Prison Guard
Hmm, this is a tough one. These are the three racs I beleive to be the least evil.
Orks are large brutes that enjoy fighting and killing. However that is how and why they were created. They were created to be the ultimate warrior race, surviving and thriving by fighting. It is all they know and all they enjoy.
Tau are complete dictators and have their unique social order. They lack the freedoms that many developed countries in our world give and that the people are happy to enjoy. They do this for the advancement of their species but many could argue that teir caste system and strict culture is evil because of how different it is to ours.
Tyranids have no individua; thoughts. They are controlled by a greater power that they halp contribute to. They destroy, eat, kill but they do it all for survival.
Overall i'd have to say that Tyranids are the least evil.
The Emperor Protects
IG Best Gen 1st overall of 10 DE 4th overall of 6
Eldar 3rd Overall/Best General of 26--2nd Overall/Best General of 7--1st Overall/Best General of 11
We could all argue morality and good/evil till the grox herds come home, but I think most of us can agree that killing generally equals bad, and that the ideal 'good' circumstance would involve as little wanton bloodshed and genocidal murder as possible. Seeing as the Tau are the only ones interested in allying with anyone other than themselves, that would make them the most 'good' in that way, and perhaps they are good generally. Of course, I like to think of the Tau as having this sort of bright-eyed naivete about fighting their cause, seeing as they're still new to the galaxy of 40k. Their biggest conflicts involve fending off a species that seemed to pick the fight with them first, and a bunch of hungry bugs; no-philosophical-debate defense missions. The big, tough decisions like forcing a person to stay alive for ten-thousand years to protect your species, dedicating your soul to a chaos god to avoid the ravages of a horrific plague, or letting billions die in a deceitful bid to save your own hide haven't fallen into their laps quite as many times as it has with the humans and eldar.
I voted Tyranids after reading all the posts, instead of my own space marines. Tyranids are acting on instinct and as far as i know dont fight eachother for philosophical reasons.
Jager bombs. Very efficient at wiping out friend or foe.