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Does the power of faith come from within the Grey Knights, or from the Emperor?
If it came from within, then they could actually be manipulated and mislead, since they'd still be faithful, but even if they were unknowningly working against the Emperor.
If it came from the Emperor, they would lose their powers if they did such acts, even if they were unaware.
Every whisper of the future from the Warp speaks of a hundred battles lost, a thousand lives devoured and a million enemies born. -- Inquisitor Lord Babel
It comes from the years and years of having the Imperial dogma beat into thier minds.They're so thoroughly programmmed to be faithful to the Emporer that they wouldn't be able to belive anything else then what they've been told.I suppose they could be mislead,but I think they only follow orders from the really important people on Terra...besides they've been trained to know the difference between the Emporer's will and something else.
they cant be mislead...they cant be turned
they dont take orders really as far as i know...they answer distress calls when the need arises mostly...
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I'd say both. They've spent their entire lives being made loyal to the Emperor, then they went through the soul bonding with him... so they're all kinda connected both ways. And no, you couldn't turn a GK against the Emperor, even if you lied. They're all masters at resisting all that stuff. Last time I checked, Daemons offered all sorts of things to people in return for their souls or whatever, and GK are trained to resist all that as well.
A good book over this (and yes they can't be turned) is the book called Grey Knights....Read it!!
Thought for the Day: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Thought begets heresy... And Heresy begets Retribution</div>
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To ensure the purity of the Grey Knights, their gene seed is from the Emperor himself.
Really? Wow, it would suck for the Emperor if Tyranids got a hold of that precious DNA...Originally posted by joeboma@Sep 23 2004, 00:57
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I think it's reasonable to believe that individual Grey Knights could be turned or mislead onto the path of Chaos. They are after all still human, even with super-human abilities and amazing indoctrination. If Inquisitors can be turned then indoctrination is not infallible and if Primarchs can fall then genetics mean nothing. GKs may be of the Emperor's gene stock but so was Horus. The propaganda stats that in 10000 years no GK has faltered or been disloyal to the Emperor in word or deed. But if one had fallen or faltered it would hardly be made public knowledge. In fact it would be one of the most closely guarded secrets in the entire Imperium. After all if a GK can fall from grace can anyone be relied on? The renegade would quietly and aggressively be hunted down and exterminated. That's my take on it.
Well it would still say if any had been fallen, god sake man, we arnt the impirail citizens we are the Collecters of these forces, if they would conceal a fallen GK then they would have concelaed the heresy as well. dont be foolish.
the gks answer to the gks and inquisition only, unless the emp tells them himself.
they are loyal to the bone, thats the end of it, there is no such thing as a renegade Gk, hell im sure hed kill himself before he got that far.
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I'm not proposing opening a fluff loop-hole to allow cheesemonkeys to take entire Chapters of Chaos GKs. I'm talking lone individuals, easily concealed. Not a galaxy wide civil war like the Heresy. Which btw the published fluff indicates the Inquisition has tried, and for the majority of Imp citizens, succeeded in covering up. GW isn't going to waste money and effort detailing every possible character arc. It's a big, fictional universe for us to play in and flesh out the background. The point of my post was to suggest a scenario that would allow the possibilty of fielding a GK based character (eg converting a GK model and using the rules for Chaos Lords, Lts or Chosen to represent its function in game). A fallen GK would represent a great boon to the Chaos powers and would likely rise to Daemonhood quickly. You wouldn't need to import any abilities of a GK, use what's avail in Codex CSM. Having a renegade GK as an army Lord would be an interestin piece of back story for an army.
Now as for a GK killing himself before turning disloyal, perhaps like the traitor Primarchs he wouldn't realize he was sliding down the slippery slope of damnation until too late.
Keep an open mind. These are merely ideas and possibilities. I'd be interested in reading any attempts to disuade me from this scenario as long as it has a real arguement and not just "They would've said..."