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So I often read that if Orks were to unite they would overwhelm the Galaxy and crush/kill/destroy everything in there path. The problem is an Ork could start a fight whilst locked in a room alone.
So my question is, Is Ghaz the Ork to unite all Orks? It would seem that from all Orks out there he IS the most likely.
Im not asking is this the biggest threat to the galaxy, that is maybe 'Crons or 'Nids, just is it plausable? Or are Orks destined to forever suffer under there own need to fight, even at the expense of each other?
The implication in Xenology is that Orks are the white blood cells of the galaxy, when there's nothing to spur them they breed and fight with each other to grow stronger, but as soon as they spot a bigger threat or a bigger chance for a scrap the horde surges out and batters itself against whatever is causing the problem until the threat has been well and truly beaten down, then as soon as there's nothing important to fight over they turn on each other.
Orks are too anarchic to ever take over the galaxy, but they are in many ways the most successful experiment of the Old Ones. Human beings take centuries to innovate and evolve, an ork just reaches into the vast weight of 'junk' genetic memory and pulls out the plans for a handheld teleporter or city-crushing war machine without even understanding why he does it. While humans may have more long term potential, when it comes to defending the galaxy in the here and now the orks may well be our best hope.
Ghazghull wouldn't unite all the orks, neither would he want to destroy the galaxy even if he did. Who would be left to fight? The bigger a waagh gets, the more out of control it gets and the more individual warlords have to be kept in line. If you read the Battlefleet Gothic materials on the Armaggedon war, Ghazghul was pretty much limited to pointing the Orkmada at the inner systems and telling everyone to burn engines (and even then he couldn't stop ships from breaking off to attack things which looked shiny). They followed him because they saw a scrap to be had. No scrap, no authority.
Hey Mantis, thanks for the reply.
So you think its only likely there would be a "Galaxy Wide Waaagh" if there was a bigger threat? So if the Nids were to show up in force then the Orks would unite, send em packing then get bored and start infighting?
Surely though if such an event did happen then all other species would be wiped out anyhow. Thus leaving Orks top of the pile?
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I don't think even the nids turning up en-masse would do it. Orks have no means of inter-system communication, so you're more likely to get hundreds of mini-hordes throwing themselves at it a few dozen at a time as all orks within X lightyears of the hive fleet up roks and join in.
A big Waaagh is not just a local affair.
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Thanks for your answers guys. I find it to be one of those great "what if" questions that we will never see truely answered.
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To me, the orks would rule the galaxy if they could organize themselves. They are sprawled all around, they just start fights with each other when they have nothing to kill. If they could get past that and unite, I assure you the other races would be dead in 10-20 years.
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First orks bare no real hatred or animostity as such towards any other races, they just really really like fighting. To a human it would be hard to tell the difference but what it boils down to is that an ork, if he ever thought about it (which they never do!) probably wouldn't want to 'rule' the galaxy if it meant that the orks couldn't fight other races, afterall 'wotz da point of being da boss race if dere ar no humies around to stomp!'
Secondly the implication with Waaaghs seems to be that they are somewhat religious/psychic affairs. An ork just knows that a waaagh is brewing and they are attracted to it. The bigger the Waaagh the wider the area orks are drawn from (As an example there was a story in the old epic rule book where an ork mechboy was drawn half way across a planet because he had dreams of a coming war...when he arrived at the ork base he found a Mega Gargant under construction....).
As for Thraka, he is certainly a tough old ork warlord and does seem to be more inclined towards actually defeating the Imeprium (and Yarrick especially) once and for all. But the Galaxy is a big place and GT is just one ork, it would take one hell of a Waaagh to finish off the Imperium.
That said the DeathWatch were apparently formed as a response to a prophesy indicated some great and terrible xenos threat. There are some within its ranks and the ranks of the Ordo Xenos who believe it is the orks who are ultimately that threat (source: Death Watch core rule book).
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