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Just a quick post. I had an idea for a neat dark mechanicum army & would like to know if you all think the fluff is valid.
As all space marine chapters pay a tithe of 5% of their gene-seed to the adeptus mechanicus to be monitored & checked for imperfections, I assume it would be plausible for a treacherous magos to perhaps steal some of this gene seed and flee to the eye of terror with some of his skitarii, & then augmented them with said gene-seed to make his own dark mechanicum war-band that could perhaps fight alongside the traitor legions?
Or would that magos have to even turn to chaos? Maybe the adeptus mechanicus would be lenient enough to turn the blind eye and allow the magos to continue secretly?
I was just thinking that I might be able to run a nice purifier list with the cleansing flame power being a gift of the chaos gods as they are called upon by those who worship the pantheon as the omnissiah.
Thoughts please, rip this to shreds. I love my fluff, so I want make sure my army's is 100% watertight before I dive in
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I'm guessing the "gifts of the chaos gods" would be invoked to explain the Purifiers powers. But again, I'm wondering why you've gone for a Grey Knights list for a Mechanicus army of any sort.
Also, augmenting Skitarii with geneseed is probably out; organs are implanted prepuberty, whereas I'd imagine that Skitarii only serve once their mature. It would be more of a generation-spanning project if it was going to work at all.
Its Chaos. By its very nature Chaos can do anything. So you want to combine stolen geneseed with Skitarii? So the Adeptus Machanicus says its impossible? Bah, we are the Chaos. Hard things we do while wainting. Impossible things take an afternoon. Just sign this contract with Tzeetch, on your own blood, and we'll teach you the proper sorcerous incantations to do it. Don't mind the small print about your soul.
Revenant Moon Necrons: (W/L/D) 0/1/0 (6th edition: 13/2/2)(5th edition: 14/6/4)(3rd edition Codex: 16/4/7)
XIX Legion: (W/L/D) 0/0/0 (5th edition: 14/12/2)(5th edition Codex: 4/3/0)
Black Legion: (W/L/D) 1/0/0 (6th edition: 2/3/0)
Something Wicked... Reikwald Beastmen: (W/L/D) 10/4/1
It might be able to do anything, but it doesn't necessarily do anything. If it did, the Imperium would be less than a smear on Nurgle's boot by now. As an example, CSM geneseed is generally hugely corrupted, to the extent that creating new marines from it is generally impossible. Fabius Bile is one of the few that can do something like it (although most of his creations wind up hideously mutated and/or psychotic), so bending the rules of the geneseed is likely to be similarly incredibly unlikely.
That said, the first crop could probably have it done for some hideous price... Exactly what, I don't know. I can't think about it much right now.
To be honest I'd imagine a Dark Mechanicus tech-adept going to find out more about the (probably "holy") Obliterator virus rather than doing anything with geneseed. Maybe GKs could represent them in the early stages of their infection? It also opens up some very nice modelling possibilities.
If the Black library novels and the fact that the traitor legions have suffered huge casualties after 10k years of war,are any indication then the legions are capable of creating new marines(albeit at at huge cost of life but what is life for chaos?)
By its very nature Chaos can do anything.
Yeah tell that to the emperor!
Last edited by pilot00; April 27th, 2011 at 17:27.
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Double post!BTW now days there seems to be a long stuck when i try to post(my internet conection is fine this only happens here)Maybe a mod check it out!
Last edited by pilot00; April 27th, 2011 at 17:14.
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The Obliterators which appear in Chaos armies were originally space marines. They represent space marines who are utterly given over to the virus, and although their statlines are better and they're physically much bigger, they're not unrecognizable. I imagine it'll be the same for mundane humans.
Also note that "casualty" (literally, but particularly in 40K terms) does not mean dead. I seem to remember someone somewhere working out from the scale and distance how long a 40K battle actually was, and the average six turns worked out to be no more than a couple of minutes. The amount of damage something has to take to put it out of commission for that long does not need to be fatal. So it's likely that a large amount of Traitor Marines still active are the same ones as took part in the Heresy.
And Mantis does have a point. An army of Obliterator-infected tech-priests is still a very neat idea.
Imagine how many traitor marines have died on the black crusades alone.
Plus even the way you speak of it i still cant imagine a marine surviving after been plasma/las cannoned/vortex missiled/been blasted to bits by a titan that easily.
Editecoragh does it to confuse slaanesh.What did you think that Ynaden is truth?No no my friend,the lauging god publishes those novels as for all of us to believe that the elves are on the brink of extinction.
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Come on now vanishing an entire moon in the warp along side a chapter at a time where there were no chapters and none noticing is an everyday thing.No need for so much salt...you exaggurate.
Last edited by pilot00; April 27th, 2011 at 22:26.
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