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    In my opinion, Iron Warriors are more of a Independent Space Marine army then a a Chaos army, and that they are stuck in the eye of terror because they don't have anywhere else to go.. yet.. Muhaha

    As we know, Iron Warriors don't like daemons, the chaos gods og mutations. So I would say they don't actualy like Chaos... Well they seem to like the Star though, but I think that is more of a symbol of the heresy...

    They don't like to team-up with other legions either, so I realy think they more or less disslike chaos and their followers...

    What do you think?

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    they are evil their primarch is a daemon prince
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>can&#39;t you handle a triple</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shas&#39;O&#39;M&#39;Yen &#064; Feb 27 2005, 04:04)</div><div class='quotemain'>Well said</div>

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    Originally posted by chaos lord92@Feb 3 2005, 09:50
    they are evil their primarch is a daemon prince
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    So what makes em evil? the fact that they turned their back on the Imperium? the Iron Warriors is only heretics and "evil" to the Imperium... But that dosn&#39;t make them evil, they found themselvs mad at the Emperor for Treating them like s***. And I understand them, after all they did all the dirty work. And I fail to see how the Primarchs daemonic mutations affects the rest of the Iron Warriors...
    &quot;To lay all your problems in the hands of your god, is to prove your own physical inferiority&quot;

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    well every army is evil but the iron warriors are trying to kill every thing
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>can&#39;t you handle a triple</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shas&#39;O&#39;M&#39;Yen &#064; Feb 27 2005, 04:04)</div><div class='quotemain'>Well said</div>

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    They do worship chaos, just not so enthusiastically as some Chaos legions. They have Khorne Berzerker, Obliterators, and demons in their armies. And to top it off like has been mentioned their primarch is a DP. What more evidence do you need?
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    The Night Lords are a much better canidate for this position. Night Haunter never was elevated to demonhood and his Marines fight for the wealth and goods it brings them, not because of faith or thirst for revenge. They truly have no demons in their army.
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    The Iron Warriors are most definately an &#39;evil army&#39;, they are like the Night Lords they do not worship any particular chaos god, but they are under the sway of chaos. One statement made about them and the NL is that &#39;any martial honour left has been supplanted by recruitement of criminals and murderers&#39; or words to that effect. The Iron Warriors just view chaos as &#39;a means to an end&#39;, which they&#39;ve decided to use chaos and daemons for their aims, but not worship them.

    As for being treated badly by the emperor, I&#39;m not sure what you mean. The emperor did not treat them differently from any other legion. If you mean how they were "The battering ram of the great crusade", they were the Emperor&#39;s specialist siege troops, in the same way as the Imperial Fists. They received as much honour and accolade as anyone else. You don&#39;t see the SW, DA, BA etc complaining about a bit of fighting?

    Have you read the book &#39;Storm of Iron&#39;? Basically it talks about several Iron Warriors commanders, and some worship chaos (one is devoted to Khorne), and many still devote themselves to the works of Horus.

    And as for fighting alongside other chaos forces, they do not dislike chaos (after all why would they have possessed marines, deamonic possession for vehicles, lords with daemonic gifts etc?).

    Don&#39;t forget Iron Warriors fought in many engagements in the EOT alongside the other chaos legions.

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    Originally posted by Kelnor+Feb 3 2005, 14:39--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kelnor &#064; Feb 3 2005, 14:39)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Night Lords are a much better canidate for this position. Night Haunter never was elevated to demonhood and his Marines fight for the wealth and goods it brings them, not because of faith or thirst for revenge. They truly have no demons in their army.
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    I am not talking about which Legion is the most not-chaos.. not talking about candidates... Just about what people think about the IW...

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    As for being treated badly by the emperor, I&#39;m not sure what you mean. The emperor did not treat them differently from any other legion. If you mean how they were "The battering ram of the great crusade", they were the Emperor&#39;s specialist siege troops, in the same way as the Imperial Fists. They received as much honour and accolade as anyone else. You don&#39;t see the SW, DA, BA etc complaining about a bit of fighting?
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    As stated in Index Astartes: "The Iron Warriors believe that the Emperor used them to fight the bloodiest battles of his Crusade and then let the other, more favoured Primarchs take all the glory".
    &quot;To lay all your problems in the hands of your god, is to prove your own physical inferiority&quot;

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    Can the IW take khorne berzerks?

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    Not a pure IW army, but a normal Chaos army styled as IW could.

    But really the Iron Warriors are quite less &#39;Chaosy&#39; then the rest of the Traitor Legions, they lack massive mutations, still have their bodies, and aren&#39;t bloated zombies, or perverts. They do worship Chaos but it&#39;s more of the means to an end instead of a a way of life. They do have the Obliterators but it almost seems to be a case of a particularly exceptional Marine who is able to influence the power of Chaos to change his body into weapons, apparently even normal Marines can occasionally reshape their weapon into another one.


    It also appears they were treated rather weirdly, the Iron Warriors were thrown at every fortress the Imperium could find and were on the front for years longer than other Legions, during all this the Imperial Fists were having accolades heaped on them and their Primarch was boasting how the Emperors Palace is a perfect fortress because he designed it. Hence why the Iron Warrior took special measures to tear the Imperial Fists a new one when they retreated. And to me their homeworld is the best of them all, a world sized fortress of perfect design, with towers and battlements so massive they reach into space and their ships can dock up their.

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