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During the Badab war the Storm Hawks parent chapter the Lamenters sided with the traitor Astral Claws. Even though they were later cleared of all wrong doing the Storm Hawks still feel the effects of the Lamenters decision today. The news of the Lamenters Heresey didn't immediatley reach the Storm Hawks. Four Squads of the Second Company were helping to root out orks in a war torn Hive City when they were asked to leave by the Imperial Guard Commander there. Though he didn't say exactly why, (For fear of angering the Storm Hawks.) he was quite firm about him not needing anymore help from them. In the intrest of keeping the peace the Storm Hawks elected to leave . When this attachement returned to Radnar the reason for the Imperial Guard request was revealed. Ordo Malleus and Ordo Hereiticus both had Inquisitorial Fleets on the way to Radnar. Ordo Hereticus was the first to arrive. Upon their arrival a detachment of 20 SOB with their cannones marched into the Great Hall of their fortress monastary. They took Chapter Master Sanctus into custody. He went willingly because he knew of no wrong that he had committed and felt that resistance would only make the situation worse. However as he was being escorted out of the room Capt. Moren stepped in front to the procession and demanded of the Cannones evidence that his Chapter Master had done anything wrong before this travesty on his honor be done. Sanctus bade him to stand down but Moren wouldn 't do it. The cannones demanded that he stand aside or be killed. Moren was never one to back down from a fight, even if it was 21-1. The Cannones drew her power sword and began attacking. At first Moren fought offensively but seeing that Chapter Master Sanctus did not wish to have bloodshed like this sought to disarm the Cannoness. Sanctus ordered the rest of the Marines in the room to not intervene and he waded into the fight. He broke weapons, arms, and legs. He didnt' do any permant damage however. The last several SOB stood down after seeing that Sanctus was trying to end the fight. The Cannoness wouldn't let up on Moren however. Sanctus forced his way in between them. The imposing figure of the Chapter Master made the Cannones hesitate but she rushed him to. As her powersword came down Sanctus's power fist stepped into legend. He reached up, caught the sword, clenched his fingers, and shattered it. The fight ended there with the dumbfounded Cannoness sitting and looking around to find out how he had done that. Sanctus ordered his Apothocaries to tend to the SOB and he was cleared by the Inquisitor with flying colors.
The ordo malleus arrival was marked by a much darker event. Sanctus was escorted from the Fortress Monastary, this time without event. Sanctus had been careful to intstruct his marines not to confront the Inquisitor and to do what he said as long as it didn't trespass on their honor. He was taken to the cruisier that the Inquisitor had come on and their he saw horrible things. The Inquisitor was a radical, after the visit that much was obvious. There were many dameon hosts and even a Defiler that was chained up and had purity seals covering it. As if they were trying to control it. The Inquisitor took a disliking to Sanctus and proclaimed him a hereitic and that he had consorted with dameons in all of his greatest battles. This of course was ridiculus. As Sanctus was returning to his monastary with 4,000 Imperial Guard with him he wondered what he was going to do. He knew that he had to destroy those abominations that were on the ship but he knew that it would be costly to his forces because they were out numbered. He was dragged thourgh the Great Hall in front of all of his chapter that was present. The Sergeants and the Captains kept all the marines in line, but seeing this unbelieveable thing done to their chapter master made them sick and long to kill the inquisitor. The inquistor hoped to show the chapter what happened to those that consorted with dameons and save the rest of the chapter. However when he chose to have Sanctus whipped, he went to far. The wrath of the Chapter Master, though slow to rise, roared thoughout the hall. He killed the surrounding 12 guaurdsmen using his bound hands as a club. But was soon dragged under by the many guardsmen in the room. Seeing their chapter master in peril all 300 marines that were in the room fell upon the Guardsmen, killing them all. After this brief fight Sanctus led his men on a cleansing mission and destroyed all that had arrived with the inquisitor. Later that year another Ordo Malleus Inquisitor arrived and Sanctus showed him the evidence of the corruption of the last inquisitor and was cleared of any wrong doing.
Well that is what happened to my chapter during the badab war. please comment on how well I wrote how the inquisition would react to the Lamenters decision and please let me know what you think.
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Ok heres a few minor things:
1/ "when they were asked to leave by the Imperial Guard Commander there"
Imperial Guard have no idea of their orders or any authority of marines, who have their own command hierarchy. Basically marines would determine when it would be ready for them to leave, not the other way around. Perhaps you might edit this to something like 'The strange reluctance of the Imperial Guard commander was noted by the marines'
2/ "Sanctus bade him to stand down but Moren wouldn 't do it" Marines would never disobey their Chaper Master. Ever. Perhaps tone this down a little.
3/ Getting investigated by the Ordo Malleus and the Herecticus? Considering all the Babab war not against Chaos, it seems a tad over-kill for both Ordos to get so involved in a chapter that aren't even involved.
"As Sanctus was returning to his monastary with 4,000 Imperial Guard with him he wondered what he was going to do"
"Seeing their chapter master in peril all 300 marines that were in the room fell upon the Guardsmen, killing them all"
This kind of gives off the impression that 300 marines killed 4000 guardsmen in one room. Perhaps make it clearer that it is not the case (I don't believe this is what you intended).
"The inquistor hoped to show the chapter what happened to those that consorted with dameons and save the rest of the chapter"
But you also said:
"The Inquisitor took a disliking to Sanctus and proclaimed him a hereitic and that he had consorted with dameons in all of his greatest battles. This of course was ridiculus."
This is contradictory. Either the Inquisitor is lying calling him a traitor, or actually believes he is a traitor. Please clarify whether the Inquisitor actually believes he is chaos or it is an excuse.
"Later that year another Ordo Malleus Inquisitor arrived and Sanctus showed him the evidence of the corruption of the last inquisitor and was cleared of any wrong doing"
It's a bit of a quick rap up for such a story...expand it a bit. One sentence undoing the entire rest of the story is a bit quick.
Apart from those few minor points, there are no major criticisms. I've never seen any indication that the Storm Hawks are successors of the Lamenters, or that the Storm Hawks would be prosecuted for the Lamenter's actions (after all the Astral Claws were probably created from Ultramarines geneseed, and noone is investigating the Ultramarines), but meh if thats your story, you make the rules.
As far as the Imperial Guard thing I can see it working. If the Space Marines where there at the request of the Guard ("Hey we're having some ork problems here, can you guys come help us out?") Then it would make perfect sence for them to leave on his request a well. Maybe they owe that paticular Guard army a favour, or have sort of old honour bond with them..who knows anyways the point is it can work.
As for the Inquisition I think at very least there would be an investigation from the Hereticus. I mean they're pretty nosey, anytime a chapter rebels I'm sure they at least check up on any chapter closely associated with them, just to be safe. I don't really think the Malleus would be too concerned though, as they wheren't even involved in the Baddab War as far as I know (Why would they be? There where no deamons there..)
If you change it so that the Witch Hunter Inquisitor that was sent there was a Radical, met Sanctus, didn't like him, and declared him a Heretic, the story would flow a bit better. Space Marine chapters are political entities as well as fighting forces,and this all sounds very political to me.
Maybe put a bit more emphasis on that aspect then the whole "breaking limbs and punching guardsmen" part and I think it will be a bit more interesting.That's just my opinion though. ^_^
Well I suppose so Edicius, it could work if the Guard and Marines were old aquaintances. You can see what I mean though if it was otherwise.
Guardsman: The situation is secured.
Space Marine: We decide the if situation is secure.
Guardsman: Er, ok. Well anyway we don't need your help any more.
Space Marine: We decide if you need our help.
Guardsman: Well, really, you can go you know.
Space Marine: We decide when it is time for us to leave....and so on and so forth.
Thanks guys. I know that I am not the best story writer, I just wanted to have something happen to my chapter because of the Lamenters Actions. I think that I will revise it so that the WH are the radicals but I have no info on them? please help me where to find it.
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There's a load of info on the Inquisition in general in the Inquisitor Rulebook. It's a downloadable PDF from GW's Inquisitor page.
And the second Malleus encounter is far too neat. The Inquisition wouldn't let the rebuttal of one of their number go unchallenged, nor would a chapter that has been declared heretical (true or not) allow an Inquisitorial force onto their planet, if they had any sense. The Inquisition would go on a rampage; even if a colleague is dodgy, their verdict will stand because of their station as inquisitors. It won't suddenly be overturned "because", or be open to investigation. There'd a be a lot of conflict before that kind of thing's resolved.
Indeed, Inquisitors suspect everyone until they proove themselves innocent.
And even being exposed as a radical isn't neccesarily enough to make every judgement you've made questionable. Radicals wield a lot of power in the Inquisition, they have their own factions and societies, and they are likely to have powerful friends. Just because one puritan decides this chapter aren't heretics won't stop the Inquisition as a whole, only that individual inquisitor and perhaps his immediate friends and supporters.
Besides, this is a marine whose followers have killed hundreds of Imperial servants in 'self defence', surely his own word is a little questionable. Most chapters who do that end up dead, fleeing into space or hiding out at the bottom of a sea of Ammonia.
And I still maintain the lamenters have a screwed up gene seed, but you aren't going to listen to me on this one, so I'll drop it.
Lamenters DO have a screwed up geneseed, being part of the cursed founding.
After all, taken from the GW web-page "and are undoubtedly stricken with a morose curse that is reflected in the bleeding heart and teardrop emblems adorning their power armour"
I don't think there is a gene for bad luck, but something seems to have gone wrong when they bred out the Sanguinian visions in the Blood Angels geneseed.
the Lamenters are a cursed founding "and are undoubtedly stricken with a morose curse that is reflected in the bleeding heart and teardrop emblems adorning their power armour" blood angel sucessor
but i thought that barely a company survived their penitent crusade which led them into Hive Fleet Behemoth and many survivors were absorbed into the Deathwatch
Originally Posted by deversnik
Already been disccussed, see other thread on the Storm Hawks in Army Fluff.
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