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correct me if im wrong, but i remember reading that in the final battle... when chaos once again assaults terra and the emperor. that in humanities darkest hour the emperor will call upon his grey knight for one last war.
It is said that when the emperor calls every grey knight must answer, evey grey knight living or dead... in the great underground burial chambers beneath titan evey single grey knight buried there will rise up for thier emperor when his need is greatest.
so strong was thier faith in life that even in death they will serve, one last time.
it is said they the emperor will transport them to earth and they will fight the enemy until either chaos, or themselves are destroyed.
â€śI am the Hammerâ€¦ I am the Sword in His hand; I am the point of His Spearâ€¦ I am the right hand of my Emperor, the instrument of His will, I am the bane of His foes and the woes of the treacherous. I am the end!
Yeah that would be cool, but I have to ask if you can remember the source for that?
It's quite a cool idea.. And would fit with some aspects of the grey knights background.
However, the grey knights aren't the chosen warriors of the Emperor. If anyone is, it's the Custodes. This leads me to believe it's unlikely they grey knights will be significantly involved in any 'Imperial Resurrection' (which won't happen anyway, because it would end GW's most profitable game.)
The bodies of all deceased Grey Knights are held beneath Titan, presumably so that one day they can come back and go "A-ha, Chaos isn't the only thing that lets you come back and say 'A-ha!' to the person who killed you five centuries ago!"
Seriously, thought, the Grey Knights are really third-generation Imperial geneseed. Their geneseed was derived from the Custodes, who took theirs from the Emperor himself. If anything was going to come up to resurrect the Emperor, it would be the Adeptus Custodes.
Of course, there's always that myth that all the Primarchs will return to fight the final battle...half of them are still alive, you know, and the rest could probably come back through some freaky techno-magic ****.
Slight flaw with that theory... the Emperor doesn't have a geneseed. The progenoids were developed as part of the Primarch programme, by which time the Emperor was already several thousand years past puberty. That idea's just one of several bits of rumour-mongering on GW's part.Originally Posted by ze_poodle
Exactly.. Don't voice that theory as confirmed, official fluff. It's not.
The grey knights are rumoured to derive their gene seed from the Emperor (somehow.. since the Emperor doesn't have a gene seed.) They're also rumoured to undergo the soul binding during their initiation rituals. This is not fact, it's speculation.
And half the primachs are 'alive' because they're now daemon princes.. All the loyalist primarchs are dead or missing, though the missing ones could concievably be alive.
And it could just be that all grey knight bodies are kept on Titan because that's where their fortress monestary is. It's not like even regular marines like leaving the bodies of their fallen battle brothers lying around.
There are only 6 confirmed deaths of the Primarches. Three for Loyalists, three for Chaos. The others are Daemon Princes, Missing (like Lion el'Johnson) or in stasis (like Guilleman).
The Grey Knights cannot have the Emperor's Geneseed because the Emperor doesn't have any Geneseed. Geneseed described as zygotes created in the original process used to create the Primarches. They are left overs that the Emperor used to geneticly enhance men to create the Space Marines after he lost the Primarches. Grey Knights could however go through the Soul Binding. So, the Grey Knights are what they are, however they are what they are, and if you want to know, you have two options. Join the Inquisition or die.
There are only three confirmed deaths: Alpharius, Sanginius and Horus.
The Night Haunter is believed to have been killed by an Assasin but this was never confirmed, just like Ferrus Manus is believed to have died on Istvaan V. But his body was never recovered.
Unfortunately, if we are to take Black Library books as fluff, which I say we should since they are about as consistent as the codices, The Night Haunter is dead. He was decapitated. That's from a third party in the room, his successor Zso Sahaal, in the book Night Lord. I would give page references, but they go through it about three times in his recollections, and I don't feel like digging it out of the pile of books it's in right now.
"They are my space marines and they shall know no fear, for they are fear incarnate." ~ Konrad Curze (Night Haunter), Primarch of the Night Lords Legion
"Adeo mori servus Imperator Fictus
Ave Dominus Nox" (So die the slaves of the False Emperor. Hail to the Lord of the Night.) ~ Talonmaster Zso Sahaal [Lord of the Night, p.68]
Also, Rogal Dorn is likely dead. The wording is a little inspecific, but 'recovered what remained of Rogal Dorn' is a big clue there. It's not entirely clear whether they found his corpse, and the hand was merely the most intact bit, or if they just found the hand (suspicious?) but given that the hand was a blasted, skeletal fragment it's unlikely he survived.