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It always bothered me how new chapters get their training. They have no veterans or anything, everybody is on the same level so how do they get trained in the art of war? Do select individuals from the first founding chapters start as the leaders? or do they just train them and leave? Any input would be appreciated.
maybe they take guys from nearly eridicated chapters, having just suffered terrible losses....with the same geneseed/primarch of course and incorporate them into the new one? :confused:
The chapter isn't allowed into combat unless it has two hundred full soldiers, so they'd spend a fair amount of time being trained probably by their parent chapter. Whoever they got the geneseed from would take the responsibility of raising the new chapter until it can train its own recruits.
Sort of like the Emperor's Children, if you ever read their fluff. They started with barely a hundred and had to be trained by Horus' legion until they got to full Crusade-fighting strength.
A lot of times marines from other chapters are recruited to help train new chapters. Say for example a new chapter is founded and decides to move in near Ultramar. The Ultramarines my be asked to send a Sarge or something over to teach the new guys a few things. Sometimes Leaderships of new chapters are awarded to heros from an already existing chapter. There's a couple'a ways to do it, so I guess it just depends on the circumstances of the founding.
This is the job of an assigned imperial chaplain. The combat hardened chaplain is sent on a training mission to the new chapter and whips them into shape with discpilined lifestyle and harsh sermons about the long remembered heresy. His job is to keep them on the straight and narrow path. often after his mission is finished he will move onto the next group of no hopers to show them what a marine is all about. However occasionally he will remain with the chapter to report activities to higher authorities, depending on the situation and location. (eg. if they are based near the eye of terror, he will indefinitely stay).
I have recently started my own space marine chapter of newly genetically advanced marines. Their HQ is a chaplain (reasons explained above). All troop choices in my army are scouts to illustarte lack of training and equipment as they embark on 'training' missions, such as patrol, search and destroy, scouting etc. My army consists of many scouts / scout bikes and a few converted land speeders ridden by scouts. A characterful army indeed.
Hail the Emporer.
From what I've been given to understand, a new chapter is generally formed by a part of one chapter being broken off to form the new one. This is done much as the original Legions were broken up into the Second Founding chapters. For example, the Imperial Fists were broken into the Imperial Fists, Crimson Fists, Black Templars, Soul Drinkers, etc. Each of these chapters were led by senior commanders, vetrans, sargeants, and probably chaplains and librarians. I imagine this process hasn't changed all that much in the new scheme of things....when a chapter has the oppurtunity for growth, veterans from the parent chapter are presented with an offer to join the leadership of the new chapter and train the newbies to an honorable standard. Thus they become both leaders and an inspiring example of the kind of heights a Marine can achieve.
Nice, all good points, thanks.
seen the mentor chapter?
I starting a Mentor Reaction Force. The fluff says that they operate in 5 man groups, but it also says that they have terminators for special forces type work. I just extended that line of thinking to, if there is a massive assault that needs tactical direction then they'd send a bigger force. The represent this I have 4 dreads (battle experiance) and a dabble in a bit of each unit.
Three Companies of the 26th Vinancium
143rd Airborne Badgers (99.9% done)
159th Corsair Rifles (35% done))
69th Armored Wall Busters (95% done)
Total 197 men, 12 tanks, 4 Heavy Artillery Pieces
that sounds awesome! even the name MENTOR REACTION FORCE would fill a foe with dread!!!
the stuff on the Mentors is scare but they really do operate in the SAS role that the Raven Guard seem to be pushed as