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i was reading an article about the chaos gods vs. the c'tan and this came up so i thought i would address it. Who or what exactly are Gork and Mork, the ork gods. Are they the manifestations of the ultimate ork ideals, are they Old Ones who were just uber powerful? What is up with these gods.
I shall destroy all who stand in my way. The Emperor shall be reborn in me, the Primarchs shall be remade in me. I shall cast down the Dark Gods, the Star Gods shall be consumed just as they consumed their brothers. Those who fell shall be redeemed, those who remained pure shall be rewarded. The Imperium shall regain its power and the Dark Age of Technology will seem like nothing. For I am the Numen and I am coming
Well, I seem to remember that they are brothers, (one sneaky and wily and the other tough and brutish). Other than that I believe they are "real" gods, (however, you wish to determine that). On the flip side, due to the way the Ork psyche works, does it matter if they are real or imagined, (think of the way a coat of red paint works).
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All I know is that they are the ork gods. Gazghull Thraka claims to have had visons from one of them and that is why he attacked armeggeddon but he also had a head injury right before that. Also some believe that the Ulwthe had something to do with that as well.
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As far as I'm concerned, Gork and Mork are merely part of the ork psyche. I don't think have any basis in real beings at all, but that doesn't mean they're any less real to the orks who believe in them.
Given the fact that orks twist reality en masse anyway, the wierd coinidences and 'visions' seem quite reasonable under this scenario.
A more important question is who are Mork and Mindy? I mean, does no one remember them??
Anyhow, I don't really think that they are figments of the Ork Psyche. It sure doesn't feel like they are figments when the Fook of Gork smashes one of my units of Mintaurs into the ground. If they are figments of their imagination, then I really shouldn't be using dispell scrolls to stay alive... ^_^
Well, they just call the spell Foot of Gork. It is not really his foot that keeps squashing your cute helpless little minotaurs. Just the Orc mage who thinks so .Originally Posted by H0urg1ass
I agree with Mantis, that they are a part of the ork psyche. Orks are really strange beings, they are less advanced than we humans are today and can still find out how to build space ships and teleportas etc. Also the Waaagh! thing probably comes from Gork, i think it is some kind of psychic adrenaline kick they get when doing what's their nature to do; charge!
Same goes with the red paint job, the orks want it to work and it works!
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This has been written many times, but I guess it really isn't quite enough. Orks really aren't less intelligent or more uncivilized then humans or Eldar, nor is there technology far behind. They simply have a much more direct way of doing things. Not to mention, Mechboyz are BORN with an innate ability to create Orkish weapons and vehicles, theoretically making them much more advanced then humans, who must spend half their lives learning and praying to get such arcane knowledge.
The Ork gods are indeed brothers, as stated by THE Hersh, and twins at that. However, the Orks claim that theyâ€™re not difficult to tell apart in spite of this, since Gork is cunningly brutal while Mork is brutally cunning. :p And both of them of course symbolise the ideal of all that is Orkish.
Itâ€™s not revealed in the fluff whether the Ork gods are actually real or merely manifestations of the Orks' innate psychic powers, but the Orks certainly believe in them. Mekboyz are said to receive visions from their gods, inspiring them to begin the construction of the mighty Gargants in the image of Gork (or possibly Mork), and this in turn attracts more Orks and marks the beginning of a Waa-Ork. And of course theyâ€™re also said to be responsible for magic such as the Foot of Gork. Real or not, they are certainly very effective in combat! And thatâ€™s really all that matters.
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The ork gods are definitely not Old Ones, at least in the current mythos. There is currently the suggestion in Codex: Necrons (I think it's there) that the Old Ones are the orks' "Brain Boyz", and nowhere is it mentioned that Gork and Mork are/were two Brain Boyz. Plus the fact of the orky certainty that Gork and Mork shrug off the blows of the other gods with ease. While it may by myth, it has some backing in the way the orks' psychic nature works; it stands to reason that the Chaos Gods can't touch Gork and Mork as they have different energy supplies, if not entirely different domains.
THe ork psyche is powerful. I remember reading somewhere, like the ork codex or something, that ork weapons don't actually work according to physics and stuff. If an Imperial made a duplicate of an ork weapon, or tried to use one without orks around, then it wouldn't work.
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