OK, before I start, please forgive the following rant. I love reading the many unique chapter origins that people have come up with, but it really chaps my @$$ when people write fluff that is, well, unfluffy. I really am not trying to offend anyone, but rather to simply express my opinion on the matter. So here are some of the most annoying anti-fluff fluff that I've seen on these forums.
1. Female Space Marines - I am sick and tired of people trying to make female space marine chapters. Or female space marines, period. It has nothing to do with misogyny, or bigotry, or any other bass- ackward thoughts other than the simple fact that it has been stated in the fluff that Space Marines can only be men. I'm all for expounding on the mythology of 40K, but there are still some rules that need to be followed to be fluffy. No one wants to make a Tau space marine, yet for some reason people feel that it's unfair that women can't be space marines. Well, guess what? The whole Imperium is by definition unfair. It's unfair that psykers are killed without trial. It is unfair that no free speech exists. It's unfair when whole planets are decimated because of 10 chaos cultists. And yes, it's unfair that women can't be SM. Too bad. Them's the breaks.
2. DIY Chapter Creation. You cannot have a Space Marine chapter that was founded without the express approval of the High Lords of Terra. So no, you did not kill a SM and figure out how to use the geneseed. You didn't steal a sample of geneseed and use it. That just doesn't happen.
3. Lost First Founding. Your chapter was NOT a lost first-founding chapter. People who write this are like people who get hung up on the size of their manhood. For crying out loud, just because you don't have a unique primarch per se does not confer that your chapter sucks. Just accept the fact that you are ultimately an offshoot, as there is no shame in that. Or play a FF chapter to start with. It's OK, you aren't inferior just because you weren't the first.
4. Non- traitorous traitors. Look, when the traitors turned to chaos, they killed those that weren't on board (look at what happened to the chaplains in all but the Word Bearers). If they didn't turned they were either killed by their comrades or by the loyalist chapters. Or they killed themselves in shame ( remember, for the Imperium penetance = death). And before you start pulling out DA, remember that less than half the chapter rebelled, and the remnants are few and far between. A lost squad wouldn't survive this long after the heresy (which was almost 10,000 years ago), and no, don't say that they were lost in the f(**&565 warp, either ( see #5).
5. Lost in the Warp. The ultimate cop-out. As in, " Well, my chapter would have been the most legendary defender of Terra but they were lost in the warp en route, and that's why no one has ever heard of them". :huh: RIIIIGHT. Very similar to # 3.
6. Technology from the Dark Age. Why do you have 9 plasma guns in a single squad? " Well, my chapter comes from a planet that still has everything from the Dark Age of Technology, so we have all of the best weapons and armor, and our bullets are magic and can kill anything with S10, and our armor is super- strong and we can teleport without scatter , blah, blah..." Buddy, pretty much all knowledge about the Dark Ages was lost, THAT'S WHY IT IS CALLED THE "DARK AGE"! If you new so much about it, so would the Imperium, and it would be the " Age of Great and Wonderful Knowledge and Overpowered Weapons" or some stuff like that. Nice try.
So , in brief, that is but a few of the " Fluff Fouls" that really annoy me. I think that the greatest fluff is that which has a unique and intriguing story without having to break some pretty well- established fluff tenets. The stuff above is, in my opinion, lazy writing. Anyone can break the rules to be different, but real talent comes from using the rules in a new and special way to craft a great and unique story. Feel free to respond, or add some more things that annoy you. This should be fun.
1. Female Space Marines - I am sick and tired of people trying to make female space marine chapters. Or female space marines, period. It has nothing to do with misogyny, or bigotry, or any other bass- ackward thoughts other than the simple fact that it has been stated in the fluff that Space Marines can only be men. I'm all for expounding on the mythology of 40K, but there are still some rules that need to be followed to be fluffy. No one wants to make a Tau space marine, yet for some reason people feel that it's unfair that women can't be space marines. Well, guess what? The whole Imperium is by definition unfair. It's unfair that psykers are killed without trial. It is unfair that no free speech exists. It's unfair when whole planets are decimated because of 10 chaos cultists. And yes, it's unfair that women can't be SM. Too bad. Them's the breaks.
2. DIY Chapter Creation. You cannot have a Space Marine chapter that was founded without the express approval of the High Lords of Terra. So no, you did not kill a SM and figure out how to use the geneseed. You didn't steal a sample of geneseed and use it. That just doesn't happen.
3. Lost First Founding. Your chapter was NOT a lost first-founding chapter. People who write this are like people who get hung up on the size of their manhood. For crying out loud, just because you don't have a unique primarch per se does not confer that your chapter sucks. Just accept the fact that you are ultimately an offshoot, as there is no shame in that. Or play a FF chapter to start with. It's OK, you aren't inferior just because you weren't the first.
4. Non- traitorous traitors. Look, when the traitors turned to chaos, they killed those that weren't on board (look at what happened to the chaplains in all but the Word Bearers). If they didn't turned they were either killed by their comrades or by the loyalist chapters. Or they killed themselves in shame ( remember, for the Imperium penetance = death). And before you start pulling out DA, remember that less than half the chapter rebelled, and the remnants are few and far between. A lost squad wouldn't survive this long after the heresy (which was almost 10,000 years ago), and no, don't say that they were lost in the f(**&565 warp, either ( see #5).
5. Lost in the Warp. The ultimate cop-out. As in, " Well, my chapter would have been the most legendary defender of Terra but they were lost in the warp en route, and that's why no one has ever heard of them". :huh: RIIIIGHT. Very similar to # 3.
6. Technology from the Dark Age. Why do you have 9 plasma guns in a single squad? " Well, my chapter comes from a planet that still has everything from the Dark Age of Technology, so we have all of the best weapons and armor, and our bullets are magic and can kill anything with S10, and our armor is super- strong and we can teleport without scatter , blah, blah..." Buddy, pretty much all knowledge about the Dark Ages was lost, THAT'S WHY IT IS CALLED THE "DARK AGE"! If you new so much about it, so would the Imperium, and it would be the " Age of Great and Wonderful Knowledge and Overpowered Weapons" or some stuff like that. Nice try.
So , in brief, that is but a few of the " Fluff Fouls" that really annoy me. I think that the greatest fluff is that which has a unique and intriguing story without having to break some pretty well- established fluff tenets. The stuff above is, in my opinion, lazy writing. Anyone can break the rules to be different, but real talent comes from using the rules in a new and special way to craft a great and unique story. Feel free to respond, or add some more things that annoy you. This should be fun.