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Is it just me or does anyone else think that tzeentch really doesn't seem that evil? He is not a blood craving berserker, a diseased plague spreader, or a suductive torturer.
He is not the most overtly evil, to be sure, as Khorne's pretty much got that one pegged. Tzeentch is the only Chaos deity that does not preach instant gratification, instead he and his followers are more insidious and manipulative. In that, though, they are just as evil, using others to their own ends.
The four chaos powers represent the dominant human emotions of rage, despair, lust, and hope. (ref. WHFB Chaos Codex) Tzeentch is hope, representing humanity's desire to alter their own fates.
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the reason tzeench doesn't seem that evil is because the flat out arn't. They didn't choose chaos, they were forced in to the eye. They get gratifaction from knowledge now carnige. They even tried to shun the chaos gods with the rubric of ahriman.
although the amount of years they have spent around chaos has changed them they have become evil although as you mentioned not as evil
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Well that is Tzeench's way, make it SEEM like it's not thier own fault. Illusion and Deception is the work of Tzeench, and this is more ravaging that mere blood spilling of the Blood God.
On a sidenote: The greatest feet the Devil has ever accomplish, was to make us beleive he does not exist.
Oh wow! Another AWESOME thread! Tzeetch is so unevil, wow, you seem so smart zak! WE LOVE YOU.
Tzeetch mustn't be all so evil because, well, apart from you saying so, which clearly makes it true, because tzeetch is mysterious and deceives, thus he appears less evil, because he isn't a blood crazy, plague bearing, seductive torturer.
Spot on, dude above..
Chaos itself isn't really evil, it's chaotic. It's a raw, emotional force with no regard for anyone else. Chaos marines don't consider themselves evil, regardless of the fact that anyone else does. To quote a film/book I dislike 'There is no good and evil, there is only power, and those too weak to accept it.'
As for thousand sons.. They were arrogant, supremely arrogant, and quite frankly they deserved to get shot down. They're like the guy who does hard drugs because he thinks he can handle it, then is surprised when it all goes wrong.
And if you think Tzeentch isn't as 'evil' as the others, try having your body and mind painfully warped into new and interesting shapes.
well that just the point man, they use the warp to shield against getting changed, hence zERO mutations among the marines (because rubic sign) and sorcrers (warp use to shield against warp).
Tzeentch is evil not in actions but in goals. He/She sees all and knows all and manipulate the behaviour of his followers in accordance to his will. It's a machiavelic way of evilness, opposed to the barbaric ways of Khorne (who must undoubtfully be a masculine deity). As Tzeentch does not seek to save his followers like the Emperor seems to be doing. He / she will alter their mind and body in order to serve his purpose. Now, you can also say that of the emperor when he created the Space Marines, but this was for the protection of humanity, not for the achievement of one sole individual / deity.
So to say, it appears to be an egoistic / selfish evilness. "I want all to be as I want it to be ! " kind of evilness. It's like today's USA will to impose the american way of life everywhere, but under the US conditions (no offence to any US citizen on this forum, it's merely an historical fact).
Hail to the great Tzeentch as she / he possesses all knowledge and his will is to be imposed to all living and dead alike. For we stand not a chance against the everpresent power of change and evilution (lol).
Tzeentch is then evil. SWTF !
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