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I have been playing 40K for about 4 or 5 months now. I play Tyranids, and at first only thought it important to learn my army's history and fluff and what they were about important, and to represent this in the style I played them. But now my army is complete, nothing more to add and I am going to start a campaign up. I have read what I have access to, the core book and a few friends codexes, but have yet to find answers to all my questions. I feel there are a few things I still should know in order to run a successful story based campaign. The questions are these.
1: Are there any other gods other than the 4 Chaos ones. I know the Imperium worships the Emperor, and the Eldar have the Avatar of Kaine (sp). The C'tan, to my knowledge aren't really gods, just elder beings of the universe personofied as "death" and what not. They weren't created from the Warp...to my knoweldge I mind you. But do the Eldar currently worship any gods? And if so, who are they and what do the represent?
2: Are all the "gods" in 40K born from the Warp? And if so, does that in turn mean they were created from the very minds that worship them? From my understanding, everything within the Warp is created from the minds of mortals in the universe, and now the Warp is basically "hell" because of the current status of the universe. "Only in the grimm future bla bla", that's basically saying that there is so much death, hate and what not that the Warp has been totally degenerated into what we know as as "hell". I am under these impressions because Kain (sp) is considered a daemon and is from the Warp.
3: If I am anywhere near correct on the above, then was the Warp at one time a semi-peaceful place? Or has it always been as it is now...which doesn't seem logical to me.
4: The Tau have no knowledge of the Warp, and no psykers whatsoever. They are,for whatever reason, not connected to the Warp. So do they have means for faster travel, such as light speed in Star Wars or something similiar? Or do they just travel slow the old fashion way?
5: Do Orks have any sort of deity the worship from the Warp?
As you can see, much of my confusion is Warp questions. Anything anyone can offer will help me greatly, thanks.
Good questions you got there.
I can answer the Ork question for you, but I'll leave the others to various experts.
Orks worship Gork and Mork, the Ork gods of strength and cunning respectively. Gork and Mork do not manifest in any way on the battlefields of 40k, and apparently do not exist in a real sense like the Chaos Powers and Khaine.
They are considered by most non-Orky scholars to be ancestor memories of the Ork people, or the two most valuable triats of the Orks put in Orky form. Orks certainly believe in them but they do not overtly influence anything.
Orks have a gestalt psychic field that grows stronger the more of them are present in a place, and some Orks ("Wierdboyz") are channels of this power. The Orks assume the wierdboyz power comes from Gork and Mork when they even bother thinking about it, and seem unaware that they themselves are creating the powers of their gods.
So yes, Orks have gods, no they do not exist in the warp (as far as anyone knows) and most likely do not exist at all outside Orky imagination.
Interesting, I have heard of Gork Morka, or whatever. Does that have somehting to do with that, or is it coincidence? But anywho...that is 1 question answered, thanks much.
Remember the Ork psychic power "foot of Gork" (correct name) with the cool template?Originally Posted by robotnik
I thought it was not actually Gork's foot, but just a lump of energy from the surrounding Orks that took the form of a big foot because that's how the wierdboy imagined it. If it is actually Gork's foot then everything I said above is wrong I guess.Originally Posted by Ikterus
Robotnik, I think you're absolutely right. It was a cool temnplate though
Nobody has any answers for me? Im sure somebody does.
1)Malal, who was the fifth chaos god but got dropped ages ago.
2) Anthropomorphic personification. The gods are the sum of all the minds in the warp of that mindset.
3) It was a semi peaceful place a long while ago, yes. Then mankind arrived with the whole wars bit, and the Eldar did the hedonistic thing which gave rise to Slaanesh and the whole cluster**** the warp is in now.
4) The Tau have knowledge of the warp, but their minds dont register in it. They travel through the warp at about one tenth of the average Imperial speed since their ships can only take shallow "dives" rather than the equivalent imperial plunge.
"It fits like clothes made out of wasps!"
2 more gods have been named by GW but in the fourth volume of The Enemy Within campaign for Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Something Rotten in Kislev, Necoho the Doubter and Zuvassin the Undoer.Originally Posted by Phobos
Last edited by Nagato; September 22nd, 2005 at 00:04.
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If I remember correctly, the Tau fluff in Battlefleet Gothic states that they do not actually travel through the warp at all. Their ships merely 'skim' the surface (if the Warp could be said to have a 'surface'), pushing against the boundaries of the Warp then letting the resulting repulsion propel them through space. To say that Tau ships 'dive' into the Warp suggests that they actually enter the Warp, which is inaccurate.Originally Posted by Phobos
An analogy would be pulling a large, hollow rubber or plastic ball just a little way into a body of water (without submerging the ball), then letting it go. The physics propels the ball a greater distance into the air compared to the distance the ball was pulled into the water.