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In the tyranids codex it says they came from the edge of the galaxy. The dark area that no man or ship has ever gone to and returned. The great barrier is where the tyranids came from and first attacked tyran. Hence there name.
Now, what do you think is on the other side of the barrier?
I heard some people think that there is something thats driving the tyranids into the galaxy because they are afraid of something in the barrier.
Post your thoughts
Could be sweet to find out what scares tyranids.
If something makes the hive mind with its trillions and trillions of armies...then they got a huge problem.
Well I don't know much about the tyranid's fluff but is it possible that it's called the great barrier because it's the home of the tyranids, and such is full of them. It usually seems like these names come from the imperium rather than the tyranids so it would make a certain amount of sense. I can't think of a better barrier than the massed hive fleets of the tyranids.
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Its an actual phyisical barrier. Everyone who has gone thru it has never returned. But imagine a whole other galaxy filled with other races.
my idea is this.
While the old ones vanished they simply went as far as possible after beating the c'tan. There they devoloped 2 races. The tyranids which they believe was a failure.
And some new race, there crowning achievement.
For a new race, what would GW do. We got mass of numbers in the form of tyranids. We got the typical finess races. We got the all rounders.
What we need is a race thats not based off what its equipment is or some guy who guides them down the right path.
We need skill and tactics.
Wouldnt it be sweet to play a race that was all about its skills and new rules and ability's. They wouldnt need massive giant armies or super planet shattering weapons or some insane gods.
I dont know how u would do it. but a way to incorporate a race that has battled all its life from the moment it stepped foot on there world. But at the same time where not inherently evil. They want to fight for simple matter that its a good fight. Make them truly honourable warriors.
Give them dualing skills, where you can call out the leader of a squad and dual him in combat, If the enemy wants a 3-1 fight then if the new warrior wins his squad gets some kind of bonous or something.
What we are missing is a scapel, a race that you can insert into any situation and they will be completely at home and in there enviroment.
Just me ranting but what do you guys think.
I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree with you, Ozeor. It’s not an actual physical barrier, merely a lot of nothing separating our galaxy from other galaxies. A great big void with nothing in it except now Tyranids. The reason why people haven’t returned is of course because they couldn’t find their way back. Since they don’t have faster-than-light travel the Imperium can only hope to span the distance between two galaxies using warp travel, but outside of our galaxy there is no Astronomican to guide them and they will inevitably get lost and die. Either that or eaten by Tyranids. Hence their lack of return.
What is at the other side of the barrier? Another galaxy of course, or it wouldn’t be a barrier (barrier/noun: something that exists between one thing and another and keeps them separate). The barrier in itself isn’t anything, it’s just so much of nothing between galaxies that people can’t cross it.
I don’t think the Tyranids are being driven to our galaxy by fear. I don’t see the Tyranids having any sensations other than hunger. We are talking about creatures here that willingly give up their existence for the Hive; what can they possibly be afraid of? In their Codex it is stated that starvation has driven them here; they have eaten every last piece of living substance in our neighbouring galaxy and are now migrating to new hunting grounds. If anything frightens the Tyranid race, it’s the thought of extinction; their survival instincts are what drive them on.
As for other galaxies filled with aliens, I do believe they are, although none except the Tyranids have taken the time to cross the void between galaxies until now. However, I don’t think that the Tyranids are a creation of the Old Ones. Yes, the Old Ones created a lot of new races, but they didn’t create the entire universe. It would make no sense for them to create the Tyranids; when the Old Ones left, it was not because an end had come to their conflict with the C’Tan with either race as winner, but because all life in our galaxy was threatened by the Enslaver Plague. Enslavers are partially warp-bound parasites that destroy sentient life as a part of their life cycle, and in this they’re very much like Tyranids; both need other creatures to devour in order to exist. The C‘Tan didn’t fear the Enslavers, not being of flesh and blood like other creatures, and simply went into hiding until life could return to the galaxy once again. Nor does the C’Tan fear the Tyranids, who can find no nourishment on their tomb worlds and actively avoid the C’Tan and Necrons. Why would the Old Ones construct such a race to battle the C’Tan? As I said, it makes no sense.
In my opinion the Tyranids are nothing but big, scary, carnivorous locusts. They’re not supposed to be special in any way, or have a secret history. They’re just animals trying to survive, and doing that extremely well.
"Girls are nice and cuddly on the outside, and freaky on the inside." ~ Lost Nemesis.
grephaun knows her stuff.
and something about what ozeor is talking about with a scalpel race, seemed reminsencent of starcraft fluff; with a creator race going about creating races. although the protoss (a race based on the hunt), created with the the thought of purity of form in mind, was ultimately deemed the failed race. while the zerg (pretty much just like 'nids), created with the thought in purity of function, was deemed more of a success... that was until, the zerg learned of the creator race's presence in orbit and evolved to be able to attack the creator race, ultimately killing them off (sadly, no one ever bothers to ask why the creator race was never absorbed into the zerg evolutionary strains).
lesson learned, why have a scalpel, when you can have an unending wave of teeth and claws.
Well said $Certemplar(I heart Starcraft) and Grephaun, However I do believe that the Tyranids could be scared from somewhere, or to be more exact, the Hive mind could be scared from somehwere. Something that could eat the Hive minds
As for that new race... and if they added that dualing rule, the races would have to end up being all the same in the end. Numbers wouldn't matter, because if you think about it, Chaos ACs are a lot stronger than Tau Shas'ui(sp?... thats what their leader guys are right? haha). So then what would happen? The Tau would just never stand a chance (even more than they don't now haha.)
Just my 2 cents...
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I doubt that the nids are fleeing something else, they are the vanguard of much larger forces that make up the rest of the hive fleet. Who knows what else is coming from beyond the galaxy.
I shall destroy all who stand in my way. The Emperor shall be reborn in me, the Primarchs shall be remade in me. I shall cast down the Dark Gods, the Star Gods shall be consumed just as they consumed their brothers. Those who fell shall be redeemed, those who remained pure shall be rewarded. The Imperium shall regain its power and the Dark Age of Technology will seem like nothing. For I am the Numen and I am coming
It's more likely to me that the Tyranids have just destroyed a previous galaxy, and are moving on..
Occasionally, in the 'inner monologue' fluff of the hive mind, it refers to humans and others as 'prey that fought.' This subtley implies that the hive mind has never encountered prey capable of fighting against it before.
This is exactly what happened. There isn't anything scaring the Nids away. It's simple, and all fluff points to simply that, they destroyed everything and are moving on. Again....a case of people trying too hard to bring up original ideas. Creating new theorys wouldn't be a problem if GW hasn't made it obvious as to what has happened or made their message they intended to get accrossed pretty clear and has been used in every codex since the species introduction.Originally Posted by The_Giant_Mantis