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I have been pondering the Ork gods Gork&Mork, like their connection to the Waaagh!, also are they warp entities extremely powerful Orks or Ancients? also do any Orks follow Khorne this would make some sense because Khorne is the Blood God and is all about war killing fighting and winning, and what about the other Chaos Gods? are Gork and Mork lesser Chaos gods likle the Space Skaven (a herud cult banished for worshipping Chaos and letting daemons across their homeworld) Great Horned Rat? these are just some of my questions about Ork "Miffology" and "kultur" your consent would be greatly appreciated thanks.:tongue:
No Warp entity was a mortal at one point, they are born from the collective thoughts and raw emotions of every living thing connected to the Warp. I don't know specifics, but I wouldn't see why Gork and Mork are any different than other gods. They were created from the collective thoughts of the Ork race. And I wouldn't call them "Chaos" gods in any sense. They surely had something to do with the creation of the 4 Chaos gods. But yes, I would imagine they are in fact "lesser" Warp entities.
Edit: I wouldn't think Orks would worship any other gods than their own. They would have no real knowledge of them, since all of their memorys are passed down from ork to ork. Plus, Orks would probably consider any other god to be weak by comparrison.
Im sorry I was not clearer what I meant was that I wondered whether they were indeed warp entities OR merely extremely powerful Orks both physically and mentaly and were so perceived as Gods by other Orks. sorry for the misconception.
Well, they're present in every single ork culture everywhere, so aside from meta-reasoning (that GW couldn't be bothered to think up many more gods for the orks), I'd say they're part of the ork psyche. Ork spores get carried everywhere, in some cases away from other orks that could tell them about Gork and Mork. And yet they still know about them.
Mork and Gork are completely warp entites. Quite powerful ones at that, orks being the most numerous race in the galaxy produce a lot of physic energy, making Mork and Gork equal to power to the Chaos Gods.
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I agree with the above, but would also like to add that there used to be a third ork god but that was written out of third edition. I believe his name was Bork (GW seems creative with these orkish god names don't they =P).
There's debate about that in another thread about Gork and Mork that's happening at the moment. As the orks don't produce conventional psychic energy, it's up for debate as to whether their desires, fears, dreams etc actually have a warp presence at all.Originally Posted by chemicalcaveman
And Bork was written out before 2nd edition, I don't remember ever seeing his name in 40k fluff (although the name did crop up for longer in fantasy).
Whatever Gork and Mork are aren't they supposed to be more powerful than any other god? Aren't they supposed to be sleeping until the time is right that the orks take over the entire galaxy.
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Which would be about now; it's stated time and again that if orks were unified they would crush any opposition. And I'm not sure about their status with relation to the other gods, that's what this whole thread's about.Originally Posted by The Imperator Numen
orks can unawaringly praise the chaos gods. the chaos gods come to different people in different guises. what one person sees the gods as is different from what another sees them as. for orks, khorne lets just say, they might see him as an orkish god of blood and fury, and not think twice of bowing before him. the chaos gods work in mysterious ways, and all are vulnerable to their wims, orks included(unfortunately). but the grand majority of orks follow gork or mork. and on a side note, are orks really the most numerous? wouldnt it be tyranids? or is this just in the galaxy of 40k, and not the universe?