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Hey i have a Chaos space marine army (Warband more like) and i have always liked the newer fallen space marines and i have just found a Normal Space marine body and i cant decide between a fallen angel or a fallen space wolf, they both have sopme advantages(mostly fluff and appearance wise) but some rules changes as well so i was wondering what your peoples oppinions are?
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Use both. I did. I have two Fallen in my Chaos army (both wielding Plasma Pistols) and a few Space Wolf 13th Company marines, including a former 13th Co. Wolf Lord as my Choas Lieutenant. Fallen should be a little rarer because they were scattered far and wide after the destruction of Caliban.
Lord Baal of the Ordo Sanguinius Clan
Personally i hate chaos! And i think there should be no fallen because space marines are too hard to crack and get converted to chaos...
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Master of the Deathwing
Last edited by Lady Bastet; December 4th, 2005 at 13:07. Reason: Its not h8 you fool its hate!
Grandmaster Adek is correct. :yes:
Anymore unhelpful most Master Of The Deathwing, and the rep hammer'll come out.
I wouldn't change the rules. Use Chaos Gifts and so on to simulate them. And an army of Fallen, as has been said, will be difficult to imagine. The Wulfen offer a lot of opportunities for corruption, though, I like the idea of drunken dogs gone bad...Originally Posted by BrigandErm... a little event called the Horus Heresy slipped your mind? Please, marines are too pathetic to deserve hero worship.Originally Posted by Master of the Deathwing
But I personally wouldn't go Red Corsair if you're planning to stay purely CSM. Yes, they recruit from any chapter that will join them (in a very cool but not too Chaosy way), but I always thought they were backed up heavily by human pirates too, and so would be more at home in a LatD list.
Loyalist Marines turned to the Red Corsairs arenâ€™t the only ones to put red Xs over their Chapter icons; I believe this is a practise common among rogue and renegade Marines of all kind, which is a good thing because it does indeed look very nice. Which makes me wonder what loyalist Marines turned traitors do with their armour; do they remove their Chapter insignia entirely and replace them with another Legionâ€™s? Or do they only add Chaos symbols and leave the rest? Iâ€™m not actually sure if thereâ€™s a common practise in this regard, does anyone know?Originally Posted by Deadly Nightshade
As for whether to choose a Fallen Angel or a Fallen Space Wolf, I agree that both could make a neat model. I probably wouldnâ€™t choose 13th Company, though, because itâ€™d take a lot of conversion to make the Marine look Wulfen enough. Perhaps an ordinary Space Wolf or even a Wolf Brother might be easier to make. Personally, I think Iâ€™d make a Wolf Brother, because theyâ€™re very rarely seen these days. I donâ€™t think Iâ€™ve ever seen one in a game, in fact.
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Make both, and use some Wulfen as possesd marines with Demonic Talons.
Yeah, but you'd need to have some 'original' astral claws, I think, in order to make it look like a red corsair army.Originally Posted by Deadly Nightshade
Then again, their new colour scheme rocks.. black and red.
Not really. I'm no 13th Co. expert, but there are non-Wulfen members of the 13th Co. I used a 13th Co box that were merely Grey Slayers. The box is perfect for Chaos space wolves becuase it already has Chaos bitz in it! And non-wolf chaos marines, too. Those heads can look possessed if you accent the fangs (vampires?) and paint the face a pale grey, and put a flesh wash over their hair to make it look slimy, greasy and dirty.Originally Posted by Grephaun
Lord Baal of the Ordo Sanguinius Clan