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How big is a battle barge? How many space marines could be based on one? The same with strike cruisers?
A battle barge is impossibly huge.
It can transport at least 3 companies all with support vehicles and all that is needed on campaign.
As for scale, its probably over a kilometre long (Emporer class imperial navy ships are kilometres lone).
A battle barge is theorized to hold 3 full companies of space marines, a strike cruiser only one company
I looked around for sizes, but there was no concrete figures, however the fluff states that in order to be capable for warp travel, a vehicle must be over a kilometer in size to accomidate the massive warp engines... and I would think a battle barge to be 2-3 times that.
Also a problem is that they vary in size. Some Chapters have a single one for the entire Chapter, Blood Ravens do I believe and DA fluff has a much bigger one than normal for Primarchs.
Battle Barge isn't a class, its a discription. I would say kilometers long, if an Imperial Cruiser is a "city in space" then a Battle Barge...
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Somehow I don't like the idea of that many Marines on one ship ...Imagine if it got destroyed, how many marines would die :cry:
As Silver Wings said, battlebarge is not a class of ship but the type of ship it is. For class were talking about battleship size, so the battlebarge ranges in at about three kilometers long. (Some being smaller at 2-2.5Km while some being larger at nearly 4Km)
As with the size of the ship itself, so will capacity. Each barge is capable of fitting three companies easy, while larger ones can fit as many as twice that number though such a thing is rare for any chapter outside of one of the ancient legions. (Where it would have been two or three barges per company cause companies back then were the size of a chapter now...)
Squeks, very true; so many marines on one ship is not even close to a good thing but at the same time this is a battleship sized transport capable of holding its own for a while in any battle. Then again, its rare for more than two companies of the same chapter to be commited to the same mission so you would hardly see so many marines on one ship anyway.
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ANy battle barge would be equipped with dozens of escape methods and probably hundreds of escape vessels. Should the barge start to come down then the marines would be able to escape, considering its highly unlikely for a ship the size of a battle barge to be taken out all at once.Somehow I don't like the idea of that many Marines on one ship ...Imagine if it got destroyed, how many marines would dieA company in the pre-heresy world was the same size it is now. The military names for the size of a force haven't changed. Its just that back then a single legion would have numerous chapters of marines within it that in turn would have ten companies within it. So a marine in the White Scars legion for example could be a member of the 3rd company of the 5th chapter. So the size of a company hasn't chnaged, just that back then there were a lot more companies, and indeed several(perhaps many) chapters, to a legion.As with the size of the ship itself, so will capacity. Each barge is capable of fitting three companies easy, while larger ones can fit as many as twice that number though such a thing is rare for any chapter outside of one of the ancient legions. (Where it would have been two or three barges per company cause companies back then were the size of a chapter now...)
And i'm going to agree with the stated meaning of the term "Battle Barge" its more a type of ship than an actual class. The Imperial Fists "Phalanx" is technically a battle barge, but its at least 4 times the size of any other battle barges i've herad of, being capable of carrying the entire chapter, their support, and a good portion of their fleet as well.
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Actually, it's a tad larger. Imperial Cruisers are stated at varying from three to six kilometres, the Mars Battlecruiser being one of the larger. Comparing their size with illustrations in the BFG rulebook indicate that a large battleship is upwards of ten kilometres. It can be supposed this is that same with battle barges, which are of a similar size.Originally Posted by darkreever
When you consider that a barge is carrying not only one thousand marines, but also thirty to fifty thousand armed crewmembers and non-combat service personnel such as servitors and engineers, you can see how the space is used.
The general idea, taken from wikipedia (therefore not entirely reliable) is something like this:
Escorts: 1-2 km.
Cruisers (Strike Cruisers): 3-6 km.
Battleships/Barges: 6 or more, never more than ten or twelve.
Remember that a Barge is going to be a fairly small ship by battleship standards, since it was designed to transport units to the surface of a planet rather than carry kilometres of gun batteries. It does, however, have a single bombardment cannon, used to target specific locations on the ground of a planet and blow the crap out of it.
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Trying to destroy a battle barge in BFG is a nightmare (if worse comes to worse it can disengage) so I don't think the marines would be too worried.
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