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Obviousl, its hard to tell, and this has come up many tmes before, but is space marine (and gernerally all) technology behind?, imperial guard, seem like normal humans, marines bolters are simply rapid fire grendade launchers. theres even an Autogun, a modern day machine gun/assault rifle
Space marines are all clones, we need only make one marine, and clone it. That technology is available already (not with humans)! so is 40k a bit tooo far?
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The original marines where clones but that has unforeseen genetic problems, basically they eventually become ususable due to mutation. Cloning does not work, they may have solved the problem in the Dark age of technology but since then that knowledge has been lost.
Marines have some of the most advanced human technology at their disposal, thngs like teleporters, terminator armour, advanced bionics etc.
SM aren't clones, they get recruited for their individual merits. A chapter is brought up to strength in GENESEED by using clones, who are then killed and the geneseed implanted into people selected to be recruits into chapters.
And that's part of the point of 40K; humanity has been through a technological boom, a war with that technology, a period of isolation, a rediscovery of the lost colonies (who have been having various wars and other things disruptive to technological advancement) and then a huge schism that nearly destroyed humanity as a spacefaring race. I think it's understandable that they're a bit behind on technology, or have uneven development and now regard it as a religious thing; they've been through enough to destroy their understanding of it, but are surrounded by its remnants. Hence the mix we've got with them now (spacefaring and explosive shells used in the same universe).
And there's also the real-world issue that the designers can't come up with things that're completely outside our current understanding, otherwise we wouldn't relate to them and so wouldn't play the game.
And a "bit tooo far" in what aspect?
I wouldn't say that mankind is primitive in 40k. Look at the Land Raider, which outperforms vehicles built by hyper-advanced races like the Tau and the Eldar. What is significant, I think, is that there is no general technical base of knowledge. The ability to build and maintain the high tech stuff is confined to a few people who have ascended to the 17th circle of internal mastery in the ancient and sacred brotherhood of pneumatic enginseers (there's no such thing, it's an example.) This is because it's not really science which guides it, it's religion, and it wouldn't be much of a religion if the average lay person knew as much as the high priest.
Um, excuse me...how many rapid fire grenade launchers have you see today? Or can feasably see in the near future? A rapid fire grenade launcher is pretty scary. Grenade launchers are scary enough. Now imagine one that can unload thirty explosive rounds the thickness of your wrist in under twenty seconds. That is scary.Originally Posted by CaptShrike
When they're represented in fiction, bolt weapons are fully capable of turning a human being into pulp - actual liquid pulp, like being put through a woodchipper - in a handful of seconds. Name a gun that can do that and I'll kiss you.
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the technology isn't behind to any other race. It is just that the technology developed in 40k is so advanced and seen as a religion that there isn't any progress.
Have you ever seen a religion who developed itself that is I think the main factor alot of the advanced tech is very rare.
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I see 3 key factors here, each of which would be easily surmounted alone but which together make a virtually unbreakable barrier to the advance of the Imperiums Technology.
#1 US: We can envision micro missile launchers which can rapid-fire, anything much beyond that is too strange for the average person. Similarly we can envision a launcher that fires thousands of tiny razor sharp disks at several times the speed of sound, but you start throwing in anything weirder and we balk. Thus the greatest limitation on the advance of technology in the 40K world is the advance of technology in OURS.
#2 The background: The whole of the Technology for 40K was set in stone in the late 80s The way things were set up with the battles with the Iron Men and so forth comes back to the same state, technology will not be advanced by the people who use it and therefore it stagnates.
#3 The Adeptus Mechanicus: My favorite reason, the AM. We donâ€™t WANT it to progress, if it did we could lose control of it, and then where would we be? The Adeptus Mechanicus keeps all the best toys for itself. If you ever want to see some of the more Impressive weapons and powers from the old days you will have to get GW to finally release a Adeptus Mechanicus army. Cause we are the ones who have the goods.
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You have to keep in mind taht during the golden and dark ages of tech. Humanity had achieved technology far in surpass of anyone else in the galaxy. Outside actual warp-gate tech humanity had the best of the best, they had technology that was noticably in surpass of what the imperium has now. Thing is they ended up almost destroying themselves with it several times, which is why the imperium may not appear as advanced as it should for being set some 40,000 years in the future.
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hey, i guess i get a kiss. ever seen a 15" ship cannon? you would crap yourself and be turned into "pulp" also, there is an experimental gatling-type weapon that has 20-30 barrels, and fires a million(not even kidding.) rounds a minute. that means i get 2 kisses, but i'll give them to the terminally ill and homeless.Originally Posted by ze_poodle
And Just So It Is Known....there Are Rapid Fire Grenade Launchers That Are Fired In 3-5 Round Bursts. It Has Been A While Since I Fired Said Weapon But If I Recall It Could Fire About That Many Rounds Per Second.