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Do space marines weep for thier dead?
Like when they are by a brother marine, who is moments away from death. Are they all dramatic and crap like the soldeier in the movies? When the marine is holding the injured marine and there crying.
A marine holds a injured marine in his arms
Marine: "brother" *cries and holds the marines hand*
Injured marine: "Aldazar....." *coughs up blood* "I won't make it much longer...I don't have much strength left..." *couch cough, more blood* "Bloody heretics!!!"
Marine: "brother please! The apothocary is on his way"
Injured marine; "I don't wanna die!! I dont wanna die!!! *sobs* "I have too much going on in my life!!!" *waaaaaaaghhh*
Marine: "shhhhh, you should be glad dying for the emperor"
Injured marine: "your right...I cant hold much longer...the medic wont come in time..Im afaid..."*coughs blood* *grabs marines torso and pulls him closer to him*
"Promise me one thing"
Marine: "anything brother..." *cries*
Injured marine: "Tell captain Hercules, I miss him and Im sorry I wont be there for him anymore. Tell him.....tell him he was a great friend and I will never forget about the great times we had...Please tell him brother.."
Marine: "uhhh sure.." *Injured marine dies in his arms**cries* "dont die!!" "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!" *sobs* "WAAAAAAAAAAghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! WAAAAAAAahahaahaaahaahahahahaa"
Direct hit from mortar shell takes him out while he is crying.
Last edited by R.A.P.T.O.R; May 29th, 2006 at 09:53.
Now that is dam funny! I doubt they do weep for their dead as I thouht they had their emotions suppressed. Also they would be glad to die in combat as they would stand by the Emperors side at the Final Battle.
But that was just comic genius
How long before Phobos comes and locks this thread?
Nah, Berny Mac, I think he has better things to be spending his time on, honestly; this is hardly worth his time. Besides, the thread might be saved yet. One can only hope. :hmm:
Really, R.A.P.T.O.R, I think you answered your own question, because can you imagine Space Marines acting like you described above? Not bloody likely. Space Marines aren’t afraid of anything, especially not of dying; it’s their whole purpose of life, to fight and die for the Emperor. Dying with honour in battle is the best fate a Marine can ever hope for, so I doubt they would bawl their eyes out over it. Rather, they seem pragmatically resigned to their fates, taking pride in dying in a suitably courageous and heroic manner.
However, Space Marines do mourn the dead, no doubt about that. While they’re not ones to sit about wailing all day, they have grieving rituals and traditions, usually involving preserving the record of their brothers’ heroic deaths for posterity. An apparently widespread ritual is for the Captain who commanded the dead to carve their names into a stone slate set up in one of the Chapter’s Shrines; if the bodies of the fallen have been recovered there might also be a kind of interment ritual, like a funeral, when they are buried or entombed in one of the Chapter’s sepulchres.
So no, I don’t think Marines would ever do as described in your paragraph above.
"Girls are nice and cuddly on the outside, and freaky on the inside." ~ Lost Nemesis.
Well, from what little fluff there is on the subject, there is a lot of emotion, but it's much less visual.
Space marines seem to connect their concepts about death with their gene seed. The chapter gives a marine life, through granting him its gene seed. When a marine dies, an apothecary returns his gene seed to the chapter. Space marines believe that their legacy lives on in the creation of other marines from the gene seed they carried. They don't fear death, and they all know none of their battle brothers do either.
There's a piece of fluff with a dying marine in the Codex who leaps on a mole mortar to save his squad. When he recovers, his squad is gone.. They clearly saw no need to stand around cradling their dying brother and sobbing like a baby. Instead, they left him for the apothecary who just tells him that he's done a great thing, and his name will be recorded in the chapter's book of honour.
While this might seem callous, even emotionless, I don't think it's because marines don't care. After all, the only people they ever get close to are their battle brothers, and the relationships between marine brothers are probably much tighter than soldiers in real life (or melodramatic war movies.)
Thus, I think it's okay to have marines feel anger or sadness when a brother dies, but I don't think it would affect the way they behave, and they certainly wouldn't take time out to cry. They're just too disciplined. Also, seeing a brother dying heroically (and how else do marines die) might make them feel proud rather than sad.
Back of second edition space wolves codex battle between the space wolves and tyranids which the SM win. At the end of the battle there is a funeral ritual in which Ragnar Blackmane shows his grief (with an almighty Wolf Howl I believe) for those brothers who have died. But this grief isnt the grief of someone who has experiended utter desolation, ultimatly the marines died with honour, so it is not grief for them but grief for the loss to the chapter and to the Imperium.
Mind you the space wolves are a little less hard nosed when it comes to emotions anyway.
Ahhh now I see...Space marines are too proud to cry.
Thanks, The_Giant_Mantis, helpfull
I didn't fully understand this before because I only started playing.
Raptor, two words! Religious Fanatics. They are just not afraid of dying, because they know that they die for a noble cause. It is the same with Al Quaeda terrorists. They know they do the right thing when they perform suicide bombings.
I'll go out on a wild goose chase here if you don't mind.
I think you've missed the point just a little. It's not pride that stops marines from weeping, they're not afraid that their battle brothers might think they're soft or anything like that.Originally Posted by R.A.P.T.O.R
It is simple stoicism and absolute faith.
"You challenge me knowing that I am Xiahou Dun!?"
Lovely, what a totally non-PC comparision.Originally Posted by zenarion
It does have its value. The Imperium is a brutal place, and the brotherhood of a Chapter is about as selfless as you get. There is no Marine, nor his life, except in the respect that he give it willingly for his brothers, the Imperium, and the Emperor. They don't cry, I don't think. Perhaps tear glands are minimalized to absolutely necessary processes as the geneseed matures...